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    Why wouldn't bucks just trade giannis flagg straight up in your scenario? The only way flagg falls is if Nico gets high in his own supply and tries to be smart. And I seriously doubt the mavs owner trades a white boy for a foreigner
    Dude probably is high and two... Giannis want's out. Best case scenario is they get a do over with Flagg and sell the hype.

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    2nd pick is great for the spurs

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    I don't think 30 should be the cutoff where you're unwilling to trade for a superstar. In modern basketball, 30 is still in the peak years (usually)
    Yeah, people are acting like he's close to retirement age. He will still be very good a couple seasons from now.

    Fox, Wemby and Giannis can win ring with the right mix of role players. Do you put your faith in that? Maybe Harper it becomes an elite player and something works out long term and that becomes a championship team. Do you put your faith in that? I personally put my faith in the player that's already a champion. He's a good personality fit as well. But i'm not going to be mad if we stay the course. All of these are good problems to have.

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    I’m happy with Fox, but I think finding a way to ship him in a deal for Giannis while keeping pick #2 would be ideal. Maybe Fox, #14, future firsts for Giannis?

    That’s a tough decision. Fox will probably be better than Harper for the next couple of years but Harper’s potential is real. Whatever happens it’s good times over here.
    Spurs would burn bridges with every agent in the league if they pulled that. Even if you don't care about pissing off De'Aaron after he forced his way here it's still bad business.

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    What is the surplus value of Flagg to you guys? If Nico asks for #2, Castle, and Spurs 26 with Atlanta swap attached are you guys doing that?
    Absolutely, in a ing second

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    Were ya'll that impressed by Fox that he's untradeable?

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    Forget about any trade involving Fox for at least a couple of years.
    He forced his way out to join the Spurs specifically, we'd never do him like that.
    Yeah I don’t think they do it. #2 is an awkward spot with Bailey being a better fit, but Harper seems like the better prospect. Shuffling rotations with Harper, Castle, Fox would be interesting.

    if the mocks I’ve seen for a Giannis trade are close to accurate, I think we should hold tight with the young guys

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    Sadly, the thing that would make the most sense is to trade Fox. But that ain’t happening.

    Vecenie is saying Harper>Castle. Would CHA do castle + 14 for B Miller? Would that package get us TMIII?

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    At this point, you just take the talent and draft Harper.

    If one of the lotto teams that needs a PG (NOP, WAS, UTH) makes a ridiculous offer you entertain it, but since they'll still be rebuilding next season it is unlikely that they would attach a nice future asset which is what I'd want.

    Houston will probably now feel a need to up their offer for Giannis, which diminishes my interest in engaging in the bidding war for him.

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    Spurs would burn bridges with every agent in the league if they pulled that. Even if you don't care about pissing off De'Aaron after he forced his way here it's still bad business.
    Yeah I agree. I don’t think Spurs trade. We lowkey might’ve just pulled an OKC. Wemby, Castle, Harper/Bailey could be our KD, Westbrook, Harden. The move now is just don’t f it up.

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    At this point, you just take the talent and draft Harper.

    If one of the lotto teams that needs a PG (NOP, WAS, UTH) makes a ridiculous offer you entertain it, but since they'll still be rebuilding next season it is unlikely that they would attach a nice future asset which is what I'd want.

    Houston will probably now feel a need to up their offer for Giannis, which diminishes my interest in engaging in the bidding war for him.
    This!

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    Why did Harper & Bailey choose Rutgers?

    If one school has the apparent 2nd & 3rd overall picks how do they not make the tournament?

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    Here's another...say Luka tells LA he won't resign there. Would you offer #2 for Luka?

    I know im throwing stuff against the wall...don't get your panties in a wad over it... I'm just trying to get people to think a little broader and maybe come up with an unconventional idea or two for the fun if it.

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    Draft Harper and move off Vassell.

    Time to trade Vassell for frontline help.

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    Yeah I agree. I don’t think Spurs trade. We lowkey might’ve just pulled an OKC. Wemby, Castle, Harper/Bailey could be our KD, Westbrook, Harden. The move now is just don’t f it up.
    I think drafting Bailey would be f'ing it up, man I really don't like him when he has no handle. He's a high ceiling - high bust potential project IMO, especially coming in shorter than anticipated as his size was a huge part of the upside appeal.

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    Absolutely, in a ing second
    youre a madman

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    3. Heist Flagg. Dallas is a conundrum. Their window is extremely short, their GM is mental. They badly want Giannis, it appears. The smart set takes Flagg, but... Giannis! Paired with AD, that's quite a frontline. I'm sure Milwaukee would love to have Flagg, but Harper may actually be a better bet for them. Flagg is a super-charged utility guy, Harper may be a new Lillard type. Can the Spurs get in there for a lovely threesome, get Dallas their Giannis, get a nice package of assets and Harper to the Bucks and come away with Flagg? It... doesn't seem impossible.
    Oh, I ing love this and it didn't even cross my mind. Trade #2, Castle and whatever it takes to the Bucks, the Mavs get Giannis and we get Flagg.

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    Why did Harper & Bailey choose Rutgers?

    If one school has the apparent 2nd & 3rd overall picks how do they not make the tournament?
    To question #1:



    For question #2 it's a valid concern and an argument I have made here before, which is why I'm leaning towards moving Harper to go after Giannis. The other side of that argument is that Rutgers had terrible recruits everywhere #3 through #12 on their roster. With Bailey having no handles whatsoever though if the Spurs aren't going big game hunting with the pick I'll chance the scrub teammates argument being the reason they couldn't make the tourney.

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    No way

    Spurs are well on their way to building a dynasty as it is now without trading any future draft picks.

    Trade Vassell for frontline help and add a couple of rotation shooters via fa or future drafts and draft a SF at 14 and the Spurs are set.

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    I think drafting Bailey would be f'ing it up, man I really don't like him when he has no handle. He's a high ceiling - high bust potential project IMO, especially coming in shorter than anticipated as his size was a huge part of the upside appeal.
    I prefer Harper as a prospect. Just a bit of an awkward team fit with Castle and Fox. It already felt like Castle was getting pushed aside a bit with the Fox addition. Throwing another guard in the fold would make that murkier. This is the modern NBA and they’re both big guards, however.

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    I feel like some of y'all are willing to give up too much for Flagg. Is he the 2nd coming or something? Giannis would be too expensive in assets, in salary, and he's already at the latter part of his career. I'm either taking Harper or trading back a few spots if some team is willing to give away a bounty and take someone like Tre Johnson or Derik Queen.

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    Why did Harper & Bailey choose Rutgers?

    If one school has the apparent 2nd & 3rd overall picks how do they not make the tournament?
    Dylan's brother Ron Harper Jr went to Rutgers and so there's some kind of history there. I don't know why Ace went there. The team and coach sucked.

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    It will be Harper. Let’s hope 14 is Fleming. Fleming shooting up draft boards. Now 10 on cbs mock draft.

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    My first choice would be to trade for Giannis. If that doesn't happen, I'd be torn between drafting Harper outright at #2 or trading down for Bailey and getting additional assets.

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    Spurs can have the best three guard rotation in the league with Fox, Harper and Castle.

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