So then what? Is he not a good defender? Does he not make the opposing players job on offense harder? Did he not punish Kobe for leaving him with 5-7 fg? What about Ray Allen, Shawn Marion, Rip Hamilton, and Melo during last years playoffs?
Give it a rest man. Bruce has merely fooled the entire league into thinking he's an elite defender. He's fooled the coaches into making their offenses revolve around him AND fooled voters into making him DPOY runner up. This internet wonk knows more than all of them put together.
never said that -- how come he never stuck anywhere before here?
This disscussion is funny, but keep going.
Ps. I think that Wade is one of the players which Bowen have a lot trouble with. Bowen is a great 1-1 defender and also great team defender (maybe even more). The defense is defense no amtter the athleticism and all the funny stuff. The defender must prevent the basket.
Stay on topic.
Riley wanted him back and made him an offer much larger than the Spurs'.
You really aren't very bright, are you.
you are pretty dense arent you ? I did not ask 1 question and the heat had him and let him go a few times - as did the celtics - sixers etc -- but you already knew that -
Pointing to Bowen's transience before 2001 as proof that his defense is aided only by playing for the Spurs suggests that his defensive prowess always existed.
It's certainly reasonable to conclude that after years of bouncing around, Bowen made a decision to work hard on his defense and through that process, became such a good defender that he never had to worry about being cut again. Those would seem to be the true facts, after all.
Why are posts getting deleted??
it never happened before, that's what I liked about this board!
Cause we are actually a defense-oriented team, which Bowen thrives in. He didn't succeed as much until he found the perfect team for his style of play. You basically already answered that question yourself, ...
That wasn't your question, was it?I did not ask 1 question and the heat had him and let him go a few times - as did the celtics - sixers etc -- but you already knew that -Your respective mothers have nothing to do with this topic.Why are posts getting deleted??
it wasnt ? my question was how come he never stuck anywhere before here. and you only addressed his last stint with heat when slick was his coach -
Okay, even though everyone else is doing a good job of making implacable look like a twit, I'm gonna jump in here.
Then why did every single Miami play for DWade start off with attempting to screen Bowen? EVERY SINGLE TIME.bunch of apologists with black and silver colored glasses- d wayde doesnt need a pick to go around anyone.
You should have stopped here, you wouldn't look so dumb.the other is his desire to be a great defender- which he is -
He plays up on his man because he knows NBA players aren't comfortable unless they have their three feet of personal space. Take it away, you make the guy uncomfortable.he knows he has help so he is allowed to cheat or play more up on his man than he normally would.
, what am I saying? When I played in HS, and also playing pick up ball in college, it was the same way. Offensive players hate having someone in their grill.
Actually you're the pathetic one. You have your panties in a wad about Bruce Bowen, always have on this site. And you are trying to argue that you know more about Bowen than the league's coaches, GMs, and opposing players who aren't whiny es.you guys are pathetic in your bias view of basketball.
THAT'S pathetic and biased.
What more do I need to address? You implied he was never wanted, I showed he was. Game over.my question was how come he never stuck anywhere before here. and you only addressed his last stint with heat when slick was his coach -
no actually my previous post detailed all teams he played for. i didnt say he wasnt wanted - i asked why he didnt stick anywhere?
you played highschool and pick up ball in college so you know offensive players hate having someone in their grill ? I played too and I love it when someone gets in my grill when i have the ball in my hand - that is the challenge and it much much easier to get around someone who gets all in your grill.
Right, and I answered he chose not to stick in Miami. I can't dumb it down for you any more than that.
you dont have to dumb it down for me -- you are dumbing it down for yourself because that is the only way it suits your purpose. he got waived by miami - philly and boston and miami again. dumb it down for you to support the chumpmentality.
Does it matter? The Spurs won. Bottom line....that is all that counts.
This isn't some static situation.
Bruce made himself a great defender after being waived several times. His improvement as a defender has made him much more valuable to teams than he was before 2001. It's not like the teams that waived Bowen before 2001 were waiving a player with the same skills and mindset that he now has.
You might ask Mark Cuban why there were such ramblings a few years ago about the Mavericks trying to lure Bowen to Dallas. It's probably because Bruce is just some replaceable piece.
I'll put it in Tarzan-speak so maybe if you read it slowly some 20-watt bulb may go off in that haed of yours.
Bruce not as good before.
Bruce got better.
Riley want Bruce stick after Bruce better.
Bruce choose no stick Riley.
Bruce Spur.
think Spur Bruce same France Bruce.
wrong.
So three teams that haven't won championships in decades don't want a player that the Spurs have integrated into the foundation of their success, and the Spurs are the idiots? The votes for the All-D first team are rigged by the Teamsters in an effort to keep the foriegner Dirk from getting on? Kobe shots 9 for 32 because he is afraid to take it to Rasho in the paint? What point are you trying to make? Other than a vitriol-induced back-handed compliment? Damn, Bruce is going to have to take out a TRO on you.
On that whole screening thing we've all apparently imagined -- from today's Daily Dime:
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