I actually liked American Government 100X more than World Civilizations!
Upper division classes are just interesting as . I've gone to sit in on Jess' classes just because I find the material fascinating. I think that fascination is what is missing from many college student bodies. Everyone wants to get a job and they've been told you need to get a degree first but no one actually wants to learn the material.
History was my favorite subject all through high school & college...I actually wanted to teach it. But I ended up majoring in accounting.
Good God lol...honestly tho i somewhat looked into accounting as a career but after financial and managerial accounting i decided it wasnt for me. If you like what you do tho all power to you. But hey everyone needs an accountant lol
History was my favorite subject all through high school & college...I actually wanted to teach it. But I ended up majoring in accounting.
No. I just couldn't find those 5 questions.
I wouldn't want you to hire me whatever you do anyways.
FWD, when you make partner (I'm assuming you haven't already) at a firm, hire me as an associate.
I think FWD is already a partner if I'm not mistaken.
FWD, when you make partner (I'm assuming you haven't already) at a firm, hire me as an associate.
... Hmm.. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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In all fairness, classes aren't even taught like that anymore. A lot of teachers don't care that you know why or how - they just care that you know it. I've had math teachers give a 'you just do' answers when someone needs an explanation.
Or teachers let you bring a 3x5 notecard to tests.
The teachers care about it as little as the students do.
That is very true. Undergraduate degrees are becoming less and less valuable. Simply because like FWD said, there's more an emphasis on "textbook learning" and just trying to memorize the info for the exam or whatever, and there's less emphasis on how concepts and theories can be applied in the Real World. I find that I'm learning so much more from my internship than I am from a textbook.
You know normally I think GiG is a complete ass, if not an irreperable idiot, but that was damn funny and I don't care who you are.
It's many of the lower division GE classes that i have disliked especially when teachers read right out of the text book. When teachers use the socratic form i find the class very interesting. I agree its great to diversify yourself and not just be interested in your own subject, but lets be honest there are many professors who could care less, come very unprepared to class and know they will be taking home a paycheck at the end of the month.
So only billionaires are taken seriously? He makes some very valid points, unlike yourself.
Dude, what the are you doing your life that is so great?
Why does it matter if Horry for 3! wants some help on a class he needs to pass but has no interest in?
When you become a in billionaire, we might take you seriously. Stop complaining about the ing world...u can't change it.
Manny, do yourself a favor:
Take a midol, drive to Walmart, and buy a 40-pack of tampons
I have to contribute a couple things to this discussion.
One, I work for the honors program at a large university in Houston. We lose more and more kids every year because our classes 'are too hard' and 'take up too much time' and 'aren't in my degree.' Too many kids today are going to school because that is what you do next. Without any aim. Or to make more money. So it's a race to get out as quickly as possible and get a job. But given that the educations they recieve aren't worth much these days (it's been devalued by commonality and decreasing expectations and poor preparation) they start entry level when they could have done that four years earlier and be making more money now. And have someone else pay for their degree when they need it.
On top of that? Kids are not prepared for college. Everyday, I answer emails asking what an 'academic essay' is (required for our applications) and we even get plagarized admissions essays. I TA'd a basic American Government course when I was a senior for my dear friend is now losing a battle to pancreatic cancer. To give you an example of my experiences from that class:
First test, essay portion, choice of questions. One question asks about "The American Declaration of Government" and it's impact (all questions were argument driven, not informational respones, meaning they had to take a side and make an argument). Of course, there is no such do ent - it was a misprint. The question should have referred to the Dec. of Independence. We caught our error and made an announcement in class explaining the error. Some people went ahead and wrote about the Dec of Independence. But I graded (and failed) ten essays (from my thirty-fourty students) on the Declaration of Goverment. A do ent which does not exist.
Another example? Second test. On Thanksgiving Day, I graded an essay about how the Pilgrims left France to establish religious intolerance on the English in America. And the non-native students (many of whom barely spoke English, they must have had a very difficult time in this class) did way better, despite horrifying essays.
A final example? This professor, when he came to the University? For this American Goverment class, his booklist was 14 books long. The department chair told him it was too short and not academically rigorous enough. The last time he taught the course (2001 - when I was a TA), they told him the same booklist was too extensive and would be impossible to cover in the timespan of a single semester, and he ought to go down to six books, maximum.
Manny, you can't be facinated in everything. American government is decidedly not upper level, at least the questions he was asking were pretty basic.
What's your degree in, Manny? I had a cousin that was "facinated" with all sorts of classes in college. He never graduated, because it takes more than facination to get a degree. It takes determination to take and complete courses that you are not interested in because they are obstacles that must be surpassed in order for you to get to your goal.
I was quite fortunate that an emphasis on real world, practical use of my education was stressed throughout my time at school. It probably has as much to do with the school (TAMU) as well as the subject matter at hand (engineering).
Wow, hearing all this you guys are talking about the common college student sure does boost my self esteem at least.
Boy I hope they emphasised the real world in your degree, I wouldn't
want someone building a bridge that they were fascinated in/by.
hahahaha
yeah
I wish i could start over and major in Philosophy. Then I'd be better able to defend my points of view and keep them logically air tight (even if they're totally wrong)
Me, too ... all of my upper-level accounting classes were taught by part-timers who actually had full time careers in the classes they were teaching, so the real-world lessons/applications were invaluable.
We got to take our Indiviual Tax final using Turbo Tax ... "Because that's what you'll use in the real world."
I think all of us wish this. Is Santa Clause reading this?hahahaha
yeah
Then I'd be better able to defend my points of view and keep them logically air tight (even if they're totally wrong)
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Good point.Boy I hope they emphasised the real world in your degree, I wouldn't
want someone building a bridge that they were fascinated in/by.
I was quite fortunate that I went to one of the best engineering schools in the country (yes, the t-sippers are good, too). That is one thing that the state of Texas has done well: they went a long way to ensure that adequate technical knowledge is available statewide. I think that the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas was a good investment back in 1876.
I need to go back to school in the worse way.
hahahaha
yeah
I wish i could start over and major in Philosophy. Then I'd be better able to defend my points of view and keep them logically air tight (even if they're totally wrong)
I had more hours in philosophy than I did in my *minor*....they offered some awesome classes that I just couldn't resist...
Making me the philosophizing accountant,
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