well that general phrase comes with a meaning, unless ofcourse you just said it to fill up space
by the asinine with one s
I love it, a Mexican telling us how our society worksEver lived over here princess? 'cause if you haven't I don't see how you're qualified to make an assesment as to how our culture thinks and what is the rule or the exception.
And I dealt with many Argentineans at school who, without failure, acted as the former...
LEARN to READ....
IT means there are exceptions... But I have personally encountered many Argentineans who fit the description of the former....
Unless the 80 or so people I have met which acted this way were kicked out of your country for racism... then I have no basis for my theory.. They simply all felt that way about people of hispanic-american descent...
Oh yeah, and from the time my dad went to Buenos Aires and many 'random' people called him 'negro' in a derrogatory tone.... I wonder what they would call people of African descent?
I see, so your VERY limited experience with a few Argentinians qualifies you to make an assesment as to what is rule or exception in our culture? Look, obviously this is getting out of hand, all I'm saying is try not to make ignorant (not meant to insult, but rather because it was made out of lack of knowledge) statements like that in the future, please.
Getting back to the issue. Look, regardless of what you think, we are not as stupid as to risk a chance at the World Cup just to spite you Mexicans. Like Manu'sMagicalLeftHand told you, those players are simply not the best we have got, and that is why Pekerman has not chosen them.
Well, if that's the case, I could say that all I've read from Mexicans is nothing but an attempt to prove themselves superior to everyone else. "Mexico this, Mexico that, bla bla bla", however, when you meet them, not all are the arrogant nationalistic ers they seem to be.
Why do you think Manu is my Favorite Argentinean.... he is completely humble about his abilities and completely genuine. Even my dad was surprised...
Look I don't know who the your dad got mixed up with but people over here are generally courtious. i'm talking about educated people ofcourse. Obviously you don't know jack about us Argentinians so please save us the ranting
I don't consider myself a 'nationalistic Mexican' in fact I can criticize the country on many fronts.... not that it will change anything....
Last I read you threw the first punch.... I don't think I have ever used the "STFU" clause anywhere.... You realize how personal that gets...
From what I've read it seems to be one of your personal favorites....
this is hilarious, seriously! Some er calls your dad "negro" and all of the sudden we're all racist and egomaniacs. Give me a ing break! By that logic all Americans are racist ers too, since they have their share of racism.
Maybe when I can raise enough money to visit Argentina.... you can show me around and show me just how wrong my perceptions of Argentineans have been....
well I'm sorry but you implying that us Argentinians think we're better than everyone else ticked me off a little. Perhaps if you hadn't made such a stupid statement, I wouldn't have gone off like that.
I'd be glad to, seriously
No I've had my share of encounters with your fellow countrymen.... maybe 10 or so out of the 80 did not have the superiority complex I'm describing...
Argentinians call themselves negro all the time, it's a way to call your mates. It doesn't have the same implications than in the US. As a matter of fact, negro means "black" in Spanish, so you can't use another word for black people.
So?
Aren’t we discussing which players should be part of the Argentine National squad, including the one who play in Europe? Under this scenario, which is what’s going to happen, only players playing in Europe plus Tevez and Mascherano and maybe one other will make the squad.
How is this relevant to the discussion at hand. As Manumania said, it seems you want to transform the debate in one where Argentines admit the legitimacy of the Mexican league. I personally think it is a very compe ive league. But the reality is that until Mexico does win something at club or National level, people in Argentina will not consider their league as top notch. No offense intended.
Wooowww!
No need to get this aggressive.
Man you are bitter.
I don’t remember press articles criticizing drafting Delagado.
Maybe in a year or two.... perhaps when the Spurs hold their training camp down there...
well i've met my share of Mexicans as well, do you see me making stupid generalizations like the one you made? Should I? really, I want to know, should I assume all Mexicans are like the ones I've met?
Maybe a little... my limited interaction with Argentineans (not including those on this board who wholeheartedly embrace the Spurs) has not been a good experience and has supported what many people have told me of them.... (my dad, other friends and family members etc...) Like I said, I'm actually trying to raise money to go to Chile with an invitation from the show-contest "ROJO"... I would like to make a stop over in Argentina...
Actually I criticize the ignorance of many of my countrymen.... their notorious alcoholism... their 'macho' creed... I recognize our social problems... ignoring the problems won't make them change for the better....
your dad, your friends and your family members all told you Argentinians are ego driven racists and then we are supposedly the ones that think we're better than everyone else
Look, obviously your family doesn't know much about our culture, so tell them from me that regardless of the bad experiences they've had, they should never generalize like that. I'm not saying we don't have racism or ignorance here, but regardless of what you might think, it is the exception, not the rule. (about the racism, not the ignorance; ignorance is running rampant over here now a days)
I'm not ignoring my culture's problems, its just that what you're talking about is not one of them. Now, had you said laziness, corruption, lack of entrepreneurship, etc I would probably agree
your dad, your friends and your family members all told you Argentinians are ego driven racists and then we are supposedly the ones that think we're better than everyone else
Look, obviously your family doesn't know much about our culture, so tell them from me that regardless of the bad experiences they've had, they should never generalize like that. I'm not saying we don't have racism or ignorance here, but regardless of what you might think, it is the exception, not the rule. (about the racism, not the ignorance; ignorance is running rampant over here now a days)
Not to drag this on further.... But like I said I have had interaction with Argentineans myself who were full of themselves and treated others like crap....
I conceded that they were not the rule.... I was just amazed at the numbers... 10 out of 80 proved otherwise...
To make a generalization based on my own experience was wrong, I know.... I should know better than that... Perhaps I just happen to run only into 'rich spoiled kids' and not the people with Ginobili's humility....
Hopefully I will have better encounters in the future with countrymen from Mexico's sister country....
If we meet you all in the World Cup however... we will be enemies for a day.
Sometimes these arguments can teach you something about yourself.
that I can wholeheartedly agreeNot to drag this on further.... But like I said I have had interaction with Argentineans myself who were full of themselves and treated others like crap....
I conceded that they were not the rule.... I was just amazed at the numbers... 10 out of 80 proved otherwise...
To make a generalization based on my own experience was wrong, I know.... I should know better than that... Perhaps I just happen to run only into 'rich spoiled kids' and not the people with Ginobili's humility....
Hopefully I will have better encounters in the future with countrymen from Mexico's sister country....
If we meet you all in the World Cup however... we will be enemies for a day.
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