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    Bowen is not going anywhere people, unless (for some odd reason) the lakers wanted to do an even trade for kobe.

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    if he get's crazy, we bury him on the bench. His contract is up at the end of the year so we could let him go if it doesn't work. Ron could be a great addition for the spurs; but if he goes "Artest" on us, we'll let him ride pine. basically he'd be riding the same pine Oberto and Barry would be riding if we didn't get him.
    The Eagles buried TO this season, and he continues to be a distraction. Burying a player on the bench doesn't usually get rid of the problem.

    It's not about flash, it's about building a talented team with lots of chemistry that can win.

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    Bowen is not going anywhere people, unless (for some odd reason) the lakers wanted to do an even trade for kobe.
    I can't believe I'm saying this...but I'd rather have Artest than Kobe.

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    The only downside I see about the possibilty of ron artest would be that he is psychotic. But mabe Pop could straighten him out. Think about this:

    Bowen shuts down kobe for a half and gets tired only for us to bring Artest off the bench to continue the defensive hounding as well as score about 20. It would be great.

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    Every team needs one crazy guy

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    Every team needs one crazy guy
    That's the reason you want to trade for Artest? Good one.

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    Every team needs one crazy guy
    Clubber, keep your thoughts on Popovich to yourself.

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    That's the reason you want to trade for Artest? Good one.

    No, I'd rather hang onto two 3rd stringers.

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    article on this?

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    Every team needs one crazy guy
    Exactly! You have to admit, at times, the spurs need a little emotional punch to get them going. Artest could be that guy if he stayed under control.

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    Every team needs one crazy guy
    Funny...we've gotten along just fine for several years now (since Rodman) without one. I haven't missed it.

    article on this?
    He says he heard it on the radio. I haven't been able to find anything on it.

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    Exactly! You have to admit, at times, the spurs need a little emotional punch to get them going. He could Artest could be that guy if he stayed under control.com
    Didn't yall hear? Tim is a PIMP!!!

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    People are freaking out over a rumor.

    Just a rumor people. Dallas has categorically said they are NOT interested in Artest. They do not want to give up Josh Howard, despite his injury. AJ doesn't want Artest, and Josh Howard is pretty important to long term Dallas success.

    Can you seriously see Pop and Co upsetting the apple cart for a guy who has been nothing but trouble everywhere he's played? Seriously? I just can't. They've got a nice thing going here and the reason is works is buy in. Artest is the anti-thesis of buying into Pop's program. Nobody in SA wants the attention Artest will bring with him. Nobody wants that headache when they are already on their way to winning consecutive championships. They have enough problems teaching Nazr their defensive system. I can't see them pounding the offensive breakdown into Ron's head, as he sits on the bench behind Bruce and behind Manu, behind Finley, waiting for his turn for limited offense.

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    From today's ESPN Insider ...

    Who's Interested?
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    Lakers Not In The Mix For Artest
    Dec 16 - The agent for Ron Artest told the Los Angeles Daily News Thursday that the Lakers were not in the mix of teams considered the most serious contenders to trade for Artest. "It's really not on our list of priorities of teams, not that I know of yet," agent Mark Stevens said.

    Today's gossip ...

    If the agent for Ron Artest gets his wish, his client will remain with the Pacers, reports USA Today. "Hopefully, it won't get done, and we can iron out the differences and work past this," said Mark Stevens. "Indiana is a great city, a great organization. Both en ies need each other."

    The New York Post reports Rod Thorn placed his obligatory call to Indiana about Ron Artest. Thorn's gut feeling where Artest lands: "Somewhere West."

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    Further, Indy has declared that they want to ship him to a non-contender in the Western Conf. It's unlikely he's going to NY either, especially since that is where he wants to land. They don't want to reward him for the way he's acted. Get him out, sure, reward him, nope.

    They only possible reason they'd ship him to SA would be on the hope that he s everything and everyone here up so much that SA has a massive collapse and they don't make the Finals.

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    You think a former defensive player of the year will have a touggh time playing D for the Spurs?

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    as he sits on the bench behind Bruce and behind Manu, behind Finley, waiting for his turn for limited offense.

    he wouldn't be that far down the bench

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    You think a former defensive player of the year will have a touggh time playing D for the Spurs?
    If Artest does come, he needs to hand over that award to Bruce, the rightful owner.

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    No I think he they would have a tough time teaching him the system from top to bottom, not the defensive set.

    And he sure as would be that far down if he's as crazy here as he's been elsewhere. Pop doesn't reward bad behavior with playing time.

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    No I think he they would have a tough time teaching him the system from top to bottom, not the defensive set.

    And he sure as would be that far down if he's as crazy here as he's been elsewhere. Pop doesn't reward bad behavior with playing time.

    you have a negative at ude.

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    you have a negative at ude.
    So does Ron.

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    Barry and Oberto.

    The Pacers love Oberto and Brent Barry fits the reserve guard role, or they move Jackson to SF and start Barry.


    This trade makes perfect sense.


    Even artest has said he would come off th ebench.


    Can you imagine once again, a small lineup of

    Duncan
    Artest
    Bowen
    Ginobili
    Parker


    WHO WOULD SCORE ON THAT!!!

    That is SICK SICK defense.

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    If Artest only had this year left in his contract, then I'd say the Spurs would be all over him. After all, they were willing to just cut Ron Mercer in the last ($7M) year of his contract when he didn't work out. But the fact that he has 3 more years on his contract is hard to overcome. If he goes "Artest" or somehow otherwise becomes a problem, the Spurs aren't going to eat that huge of a contract.

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    I don't think he goes Artest for this reason.

    He IMO is like a Stephen Jackson.

    Under strong authority role models, but RESPECTED, role models, he would behave.

    IE, he has extreme respect for Tim Duncan, and more than likely Gregg Popovich.


    If this trade goes down, it wont be popular, but itll be better than Rodman, because for this reason. Artest respects authority, while Rodman never did.


    If this team got Artest, and only gave up Brent Barry and Fabricio Oberto?


    Good god.....

    70 wins here we come.

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    Well, if they would actually bite on Barry/Oberto, Pop might consider it as it wouldn't cost any of our main contributors. I have to think other teams have more to offer, however.

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