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We'll see in the finals JUNE 2006
Nope. Tony's the man now.
We'll see in the finals JUNE 2006
Tony and Manu get most of their points because the other team is so focused on stopping Tim.
cmon man, dont say that. Duncan is great and all, but lets not overdramatize. Ginobilli can create for himself quite nicely, only thing he gains from is that he doesnt get doubled team. And parker gets most his points off pick and roll drives
This really isn't a debate is it?
The Spurs can win without TP or Manu..
They can't win without TD...
No he's not. TP is nothing more than an average PG w/o Tim. Don't forget who got the team the 3 rings. Tony has not fared well in the playoffs to say the least. He still has alot more to prove.Nope. Tony's the man now.
The Spurs do not need the 1 seed in the west to go back to the finals. Come on they spanked the Suns all over their home court last year in the west finals. Is this years Dallas team better that last years suns, i don't think so.
IMO, HCA only matters between the Spurs and the Pistons.
Tim has been fetching guys rings practically by himself since the day he was drafted.
Tony has done his fair share of choking due to his Frenchness, but to say he is an average guard sans TD is ing idiotic at the very best.
Who's been carrying us THIS season? I would like it to be Tim but frankly, Tim's been slacking compared to TP this year.
S T F U .....
Tim is trying to manage things so he stays off the injured list...
He's saving it for the playoff fools.
Look at it this way...
The Spurs are playing like and they have a 19-5 record, best in the West, and second best overall.
The Pistons are playing amazingly well and they have a 19-3 record, best in the East, and best overall.
If the Spurs can play like and maintain that good of a position, I can't wait until they start playing halfway decent.
Our "terrible" Spurs are playing with no Manu and an injured Tim, and we still manage to maintain a .792 record, and yet some fans continue to complain. Aren't we spoiled?
"19-5"
Play like Champions, pull their heads out of their asses, hustle, and beat crappy teams like Atlanta and NO, and the Spurs would be 21-3.
The only team to compare the Spurs to is the Pistons.
"I can't wait until they start playing halfway decent."
You have no choice but to wait. Check back in March, or later, apparently.
They'll get the message soon enough. I think they'll get it together when Manu comes back. Finley is insane right now. That's the bright spot.
That would be TD, check out his efficiency and PER... He's head and shoulders above TP, but this arguement is moot. TD's presence makes it easier for Tony, and he made Tony the player he is, not the other way around. Only re s don't recognize this...Who's been carrying us THIS season? I would like it to be Tim but frankly, Tim's been slacking compared to TP this year.
Personally I'd prefer a hotline telling them where the nearest cliff is.
Spurs will drop 3 more games this week.
Right. As I said before, in another thread, it's more important to me that they expend energy on beating teams that will matter in the long run (i.e., teams they will have to deal with in the playoffs). If they can beat them, I'm not worried about the teams that don't matter and will not be a factor in the playoffs. So far, they are right on the money on that. Don't worry about them losing to the insignificant teams now. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter, as long as they can beat the contenders.Hey...they are gonna lose 15-20 regular season games...everyone does...I actually think it's funny who they are losing to...it's like since that first loss to Dallas they sat down with the schedule and circled all the teams that they were sure wouldn't even make the playoffs and decided to only lose to them...
I think...more importantly...Tony and Timmy are "the men" TOGETHER.
Player G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% PPG
Tim Duncan 24 24 35.9 .499 .333 .673 20.3
Tony Parker 24 24 35.2 .544 .250 .667 20.1
THAT'S AMAZING!
Go, Tony and Timmy!
He's not at the moment. Have you troubled to look at the stats?
Tim IS head and shoulders above Tony -- and wuxia is right to say that Tim Duncan makes Tony as good as he is. Tony is a talented player, but he's more effective because he plays with Tim.
The numbers wuxia points to aren't straight up statistical averages. They are metrics that try to account for every aspect of the game to measure a player's worth. And those metrics say that Tim is still at the very top of the league in all-around play, even if he shoots the ball poorly or doesn't grab a gazillion rebounds every night.
When you add it all together, Tim Duncan is the whole reason that the Spurs ever have a chance to win les.
I don't disagree with that. But, the fact is, at the moment, Tim and Tony are statistically neck and neck. That's all I was saying.
(and I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts that no one is happier about that than Tim Duncan; that's just the kind of guy he is and what REALLY puts him "head and shoulders above" everyone else)
Did someone notice that BB is a team sport?
Why do you need THE man.
KG or AI are the man... but their team suck.
Just for fun the top scorers... and team results:
Allen Iverson , PHI 13W/12L
Kobe Bryant , LAL 13W/11L
LeBron James , CLE 13W/9L
Gilbert Arenas , WAS 9W/14L
Dwyane Wade , MIA 14W/11L
Dirk Nowitzki , DAL 18W/6L (first top team)
To win, we need:
A great TD, an improved TP, a Gino back to the top.
But also:
Bruce defense, a more consistent Finley, a decisive Horry...
Even Jordan was not able to win alone
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