Girls Expelled Over Confederate Flag Purses

[exstatic]

And why, praytell, is Lincoln burning in ? Enquiring minds want to know...

[Brutalis]

I watched a program on the History channel a couple years back. They had a thing about Jefferson, who was PROVEN to have slaves and knocked one of them up. In the 2nd half of the show they talked about Lincoln. They said several of the people that worked for him and his administration made claims that he had family that had slaves in the Union. They pretty much went on to question his integrity because of several do ents and people from that time saying he was a hypocrite. They also said that may be one of the reasons he was killed.

Jeffersons life was polished and cleaned just like Lincolns to look good to the naked eye. That's pretty much what it talked about.

Also, I've flipped through channels and seen programs debating that same issue about Lincoln. I just happen to not believe the fairy tale bull our Country tells us about him.

[boutons_]

Nearly all the Founding Fathers were slave owners. And, as I saw on the History channel's beer program, many were big brewers of beer. I think Washington actually brewed on a big scale.

The FFs also denied the vote to non-land-owners, to women, and of course to slaves.
Lynching blacks, aka murder, wasn't even a punished crime in the south and in many states until well into the 20th century.

To see that it took 100 - 150 years after the Cons ution for the USA to become even close to what we all agree is "democracy" today, dubya/ head's bull idea of bringing democracy to the ing medieval and tribal Middle East is totally unrealistic.

[Brutalis]

The Cival War also was not fought over slavery. It basically came down to the South not getting paid for it's crops being delivered to the North. They Yank's though they could underpay and do whatever the they want just because they were the richer.

Also. The free trade of crops from the South to the world pissed the Union off. They didn't wanna pay the price and the South was determined to find a new customer then.

All this about the Union was in the "right" is bull and lies being taught to our kids. They were both wrong and ing stupid. End of story.

And the Union had slaves, and did the blacks the same way the South did. The Union's MONEY covered it up.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

"I'm at the point where I really don't know what to do," she said.

Leave the purse at home you stupid .

She should consider herself lucky, if she walked down certain streets in this country she'd end up with with a double tap in the head from a 9.

[exstatic]

And the Union had slaves, and did the blacks the same way the South did.

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Slavery was an ins ution that required a whole set of laws to maintain, laws that did not exist in the North where it was illegal. You can't keep slaves if they can walk out the door or hop the fence and be free.

[Brutalis]

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Slavery was an ins ution that required a whole set of laws to maintain, laws that did not exist in the North where it was illegal. You can't keep slaves if they can walk out the door or hop the fence and be free.

Right. Because nobody owned guns and all the whites in the North were ing sweethearts to the blacks.

Wow. Okay.

[Brutalis]

whats wrong with showing your displeasure with the federal government? is advocating open warfare against yankees count as treason?

If you remember correctly the Union started the fight and finished it as well.

When ya steal you get your hand cut off. And the South had enough.

Wasn't like they had a say in anything. Yank's were too busy drinking their wine and shopping for a new hat I bet.

"Let's just underpay and laugh at them cause they cant do "

Well, happend. A war. Thanks.

[Brutalis]

I apolygize if I show a favor to the south it is because I was raised there. But I do know both sides were at fault and not one side had more than the other. It was a no brainer the Union was going to win though. And it's good that they did because the Southern leaders would have got power hungry and ruined this country if they had won.

[exstatic]

What? Nobody said no one owned guns, or that northerners were sweethearts to the blacks. It was just illegal to OWN them. Slavery cannot be sustained without laws to enforce it. Those only existed SOUTH of the Mason Dixon line.

Dude, this is such a guilt trip you're trying to avoid. Somehow, even though they seceded from the Union, the good people of Arkansas weren't really for slavery, but there were secret slaves kept in the North, where it was illegal and impossible to enforce. Are there black helicopters hovering outside your house?

[exstatic]

If you remember correctly the Union started the fight and finished it as well.

I remember Ft. Sumpter SC being fired on by treasonous rebels. You're half right, though. The Union certainly finished it.

[Brutalis]

What? Nobody said no one owned guns, or that northerners were sweethearts to the blacks. It was just illegal to OWN them. Slavery cannot be sustained without laws to enforce it. Those only existed SOUTH of the Mason Dixon line.

Dude, this is such a guilt trip you're trying to avoid. Somehow, even though they seceded from the Union, the good people of Arkansas weren't really for slavery, but there were secret slaves kept in the North, where it was illegal and impossible to enforce. Are there black helicopters hovering outside your house?

You sound like our wonderful ing president taking things that are said and rewording them in an ignorant manner to sound like you have a point.

You're a cool guy but inside of this thread you are an idiot.

It's like you think I make this up.

Did you goto school in Arkansas? Did you see that program on [H] ? No? Then try to open your mind a little bit to learn more about the war other than what you read in your social studies book back in gradeschool. Or what the headlines say that being fed to you through our countries great opinions it pushes on its citizens to believe.

[Brutalis]

I remember Ft. Sumpter SC being fired on by treasonous rebels. You're half right, though. The Union certainly finished it.

Yes, they did.

And what was SC? Huh?

And the South was ing tired of these theiving Yank's stealing hundreds of pounds of crops and grain and agriculture. When you steal, and steal, and underpay, repeat, your ass is going to get shot one way or another.

I don't know that those Yank's were stealing. But that was what was happening. And the South started firing on any intruders threatning their land. THAT's how ing poor they was. PROTECTING THEIR LIFE AND WELL BEING.

[exstatic]

You can't see that schools in AR would have an interest in spinning their history in a positive light?

[exstatic]

Yes, they did.

And what was SC? Huh?

The South? You said the North started it. I was refuting your point, and rather well, I might add.

[Brutalis]

You can't see that schools in AR would have an interest in spinning their history in a positive light?

Kinda like Texas and how they deny being apart of the confedercy? You wanna get into a liars chair ?

[Brutalis]

The South? You said the North started it. I was refuting your point, and rather well, I might add.

Yes, they are the South. Yes I said the North started it. What don't you get?

[exstatic]

What? I have no idea what Texas teaches. If they refute the confederacy, good for them. It's not something to be proud of.

[Brutalis]

You can't see that schools in AR would have an interest in spinning their history in a positive light?

Our history sucks dude. There's nothing to spin anyways. We were the first state completely siezed by the Union, flat out owned because of the states lack of concern to stop them, which I dont blame them for either. What's their to spin light on?

[exstatic]

Yes, they are the South. Yes I said the North started it. What don't you get?

How you see the North starting it.

[Brutalis]

What? I have no idea what Texas teaches. If they refute the confederacy, good for them. It's not something to be proud of.

And it's something to be proud of to be from the Union? Are you ing kidding me?

Another dude who overlooks the lies and scandals. You think the Union won, and didn't cover up their dirty tracks?

Wow. This war is not your best subject.

It's late, I'm done with this thread.

[Brutalis]

How you see the North starting it.

the South was ing tired of these theiving Yank's stealing hundreds of pounds of crops and grain and agriculture. When you steal, and steal, and underpay, repeat, your ass is going to get shot one way or another.

I don't know that those Yank's were stealing. But that was what was happening. And the South started firing on any intruders threatning their land. (even their own too i might add) THAT's how ing poor they was. PROTECTING THEIR LIFE AND WELL BEING.

[exstatic]

Winners write history. I'm out, too.

[Brutalis]

Winners write history. I'm out, too.

Right.

And when the war in Iraq is over. We will claim victory, then change the history books on what exactly happend to make it look good in and in our favour.

Wowwowowowowowow.

[cherylsteele]

I remember Ft. Sumpter SC being fired on by treasonous rebels. You're half right, though. The Union certainly finished it.

That is right....Ft. Sumpter was a UNION FORT and was attacked by the rebels of the Confederacy.

The causes were too many to really narrow down.
Another main cause people forget about is the south felt that it's individual state's rights were being disallowed altogether, mainly due to the slavery issue. They felt it should be the rights of the individual states to make it legal or not.