who won the war on Christmas?

[spursncowboys]

1. okay
2. It doesn't have to be about you if you don't take the position that you are defending something that everyone else is trashing. My point was that Jesus pointed out hypocrites in his own religious background, just as many of the posters (particularly in this thread) have done. That doesn't make those posters atheists or bigots toward religion. It makes them hypocrite-bashers, in the best Christian tradition.
3.)I stand by my paraphrase of Shakespeare.

2. He also followed God's teachings, even when the devil tested him with scripure.

[Duff McCartney]

I agree that all religions have these teachings put in to some degree, but the life and teachings of jesus is far different than any other religion.

Actually the Buddha has pretty much the same life as jesus. They were both born of virgins, except not in a manger.

Honestly if all religions have these teachings, then what are you arguing about? What possible "degree" be different in any religion? There is no little bit of peace and love, it's in all of them. Or don't you know that even in the Koran, Jesus is mentioned more than any other person, even Mohammad.

[ploto]

I agree that Jesus was against the traditions of the Jewish religion.

I don't agree with you at all. Yes, He admonished the hypocritical Pharisees, but it was not their teachings with which he had issue.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

[spursncowboys]

I don't agree with you at all. Yes, He admonished the hypocritical Pharisees, but it was not their teachings with which he had issue.

where was that quote from?
It was the teachings, the idols, the laws, the refusal to believe in the son of god, the dismissal and beheading of john the baptist.

[ChumpDumper]

where was that quote from?

From Jesus.

[byrontx]

We need to keep the Ba'al in XMas.

[exstatic]

Maybe you should do a little research on Falwell's record on volunteering and donations.

Maybe you should do a little research on his attempt to steal PTL industries lock stock and barrel when he was only asked to caretake it for a short time.

I wouldn't bait a crab pot with his diseased flesh.

[exstatic]

Don't mean for you to waste your time, but why don't you use some actual quotes of some of the bigger religions. Maybe I didn't explain my position well. Jesus was born in a manger on the run. He came for the sinners. He was tortured and killed by the very people he came to save. He rather had spent his time with tax collectors and pros utes than nobles, and religious leaders. I agree that all religions have these teachings put in to some degree, but the life and teachings of jesus is far different than any other religion.

Unfortunately, modern Fundamentalist Christianity has very little to do with the teachings of Jesus, although they should be able to (but probably fail to) recognize themselves in the parable of the money changers at the temple.

[Supergirl]

Not that this has anything to do with gay marriage, but Jesus was a religious Jew and never intended for a new religion to spring up after his death. He preached against some of the hypocrisies in the Temple at the time, but he never stopped being a Jew.

Which, by the way, is a very Jewish thing to do. Jews are all about arguing with your own faith and debating what it means to be Jewish and to be spiritual. The word "Yisrael" (Israel) means "struggle with G-d."

[spursncowboys]

Unfortunately, modern Fundamentalist Christianity has very little to do with the teachings of Jesus, although they should be able to (but probably fail to) recognize themselves in the parable of the money changers at the temple.

Not a parable but I get your point. Unfortunately you have a pretty consistent record against christians on this forum. There are no set of facts or data that will show this point you make, so it is just your opinion. I personally have seen, through different denominations, the hand of god working throughout these religions.

[spursncowboys]

Not that this has anything to do with gay marriage, but Jesus was a religious Jew and never intended for a new religion to spring up after his death. He preached against some of the hypocrisies in the Temple at the time, but he never stopped being a Jew.

Which, by the way, is a very Jewish thing to do. Jews are all about arguing with your own faith and debating what it means to be Jewish and to be spiritual. The word "Yisrael" (Israel) means "struggle with G-d."

Jesus came down and lived a sinless life. He was a perfect sacrifice for our sins. John 3:16-17 "16 “For God so loved the world, [9] that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him."

Yes he did intend for a new religion. He said to be a follower of him, would mean to be persecuted. He told peter to create the church. He set up the communion. He saved gentiles just like jews. He is the son of god, not of jews.

[mookie2001]

so you know that but youre not protestant or catholic?

shyeah right brah

[ChumpDumper]

How could God give his son when Jesus is God?

[spursncowboys]

so you know that but youre not protestant or catholic?

shyeah right brah

why does it matter so much? what if I'm studying religion in college?

[mookie2001]

it doesnt matter other than i dont believe you, good luck with your studies

[spursncowboys]

it doesnt matter other than i dont believe you, good luck with your studies

There is nothing to believe, I said what if.

[mookie2001]

i dont believe you would care so much about christianity, the bible, religion, or this thread if you werent catholic or protestant i meant

[spursncowboys]

i dont believe you would care so much about christianity, the bible, religion, or this thread if you werent catholic or protestant i meant

Do you realize how many denominations there are besides protestant and catholic?

[mookie2001]

oh ok so you dont know what protestant is...

i'll let you find that one out for yourself

[spursncowboys]

So what does st come from? Should we say merry x-st-mas?

[ChumpDumper]

Do you realize how many denominations there are besides protestant and catholic?

So to which one do you belong?

[ploto]

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to His disciples: "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."

[ploto]

So what does st come from? Should we say merry x-st-mas?

I suppose you can not read this either:

Mr.

It has no "st" in it. It is called an abbreviation.

[elbamba]

Not that this has anything to do with gay marriage, but Jesus was a religious Jew and never intended for a new religion to spring up after his death. He preached against some of the hypocrisies in the Temple at the time, but he never stopped being a Jew.

Which, by the way, is a very Jewish thing to do. Jews are all about arguing with your own faith and debating what it means to be Jewish and to be spiritual. The word "Yisrael" (Israel) means "struggle with G-d."

that is not altogether true. While Christ never stopped being Jewish he certainly preached doctrine that was not in line with the jewish doctrine. He established a sacrement of wine and bread which was to replace the necessity of offering animals to God. He left Peter to be a leader and gave him the keys to the kingdom with full authority to continue running the Church of Jesus Christ.

[elbamba]

Now, back to the topic:

Santa 27 - Dasher & Prancer 22.