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    They need a guy who blocks shots, AND rebounds...

    Too bad theres no one like that available.

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    Speaking of blocks and rebounds, Kendrick Perkins is averaging 5 boards and over a block in 14 mpg. I think he's going to end up being good.

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    Perkins looked good the other night VS Dallas.

    He could be, no question.

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    Rasho is never going to cut it against the teams that matter in the playoffs. He just isn't built to excel against fast physical frontcourts - which is what we're going to get a heavy dose of in the playoffs.

    If we're not going to trade Nazr then Popovich is being incredibly shortsighted by not giving him meaningful minutes during the regular season so he can at least have a chance to learn from his mistakes in a game situation. I could care less what's going on in practice or any other personal issues between the two because we have no other options. We cannot win a series against the Pistons with Rasho - that much should be clear by now. I don't want to lose the chance at a repeat because of Popovich's inflexibility.

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    I've seen enough of Nazr, and knowing his and age years in the NBA, is that the guy isn't going to improve as a Spur, or NBA player, with more minutes.

    Nazr is playing a little differently now than last spring, but I figure he knows he has to take every initiative with every chance he gets.

    It's tough that he's getting only 12 MPG probably his last contract year, but I'd love to be as poor as he is.

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    We cannot win a series against the Pistons with Rasho - that much should be clear by now.
    We won't with just Nazr either, unfortunately. We are missing a truly athletic frontcourt player which is crucial in today's NBA. If we can't trade for that player, we may as well start trying out guys like Chuck Hayes to see if they could contribute.

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    nobody is gonna help the Spurs with trade of an athletic big, only maybe an EC team really desperate.

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    Hence, plan B.

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    looking at last year's playoffs. Nazr, some Rasho, and Robert split the first 3 qtrs, and then mostly Robert alone closed the games. Not pretty, but it worked.

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    I really like that David Lee guy the Knicks picked up. Hustles the boards, can hit from outside. HUGE plus for Knicks. Would Isaiah be so stupid ..... ??

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    Would Isaiah be so stupid ..... ??
    All the youngsters save Ariza are untouchable.
    looking at last year's playoffs. Nazr, some Rasho, and Robert split the first 3 qtrs, and then mostly Robert alone closed the games. Not pretty, but it worked.
    Relying so much on Horry is dangerous in itself, and we're going to have to ween ourselves off him sooner or later anyway.

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    We won't with just Nazr either, unfortunately.
    That's kind of hard to say when the guy doesn't get any time on the court to prove himself.

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    That's kind of hard to say when the guy doesn't get any time on the court to prove himself.
    Nah, it's pretty easy to say knowing his play and the general direction of the NBA.

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    More active, yes. Better, debatable. Most people think Nazr's sucky defense doesn't make up for him getting an extra board or two.

    As far as practice goes, perhaps Rasho seems to understand position D, rotations, sets, etc better than Nazr in practices. Perhaps he works harder in practice. Who knows. I am just saying that there's many logical reasons why Nazr may not be on the court and we aren't privvy to all of them.

    That being said -- Rasho is far too immobile to log that many minutes against the Pistons ever again.
    Tim has become relatively immobile because of injuries as well. And Bowen can't matchup heightwise for rebounds. I don't see an answer for their front line right now anywhere on our club.

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    Tim has become relatively immobile because of injuries as well. And Bowen can't matchup heightwise for rebounds. I don't see an answer for their front line right now anywhere on our club.
    Maybe Nazr won't be the answer but we'll never know if he doesn't get more meaningful minutes. We know for certain that Rasho isn't the answer. At least Nazr has averaged 8 rpg during his career, something Rasho has never done.

    Nazr may never fully grasp our defense but having missed training camp this year and not averaging many mpg this season, Pop's not really giving him a fair shake. He is being very Malik-like with him with his frequent yankings for missed rotations except Nazr isn't a 7 year vet of the system like Malik was.

    I'm sure Rasho is a good guy and teammate and maybe he does all the right things in practice compared to Nazr but Pop's love affair with him has to end. All signs indicate that the road to a le with go through the Motor City this year and he isn't going to get the job done.

    I sometimes wonder if Pop is so patient with him because of all the trouble he went through to recruit him. Pop had to sweet-talk his parents in Slovenia to get Rasho and now no other GM will touch him with a 10 foot pole. It's time for Pop to stop trying to save face and admit that the Rasho experiment is a failure.

    Either give Nazr a fair shake or trade him but stop trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. It's January and this team still has time left.

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    "something Rasho has never done."

    He scored 8.4 and 11.2 PPG in his last 2 years @MIN.

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    rasho's lack of quickness is exposed against teams like phoenix and detroit, but he is fine vs other teams. nazr is the one who needs to pick up the slack against teams with quicker frontcourts. it isn't about a love affair with rasho, it's about nazr being unable to step up and play like he knows what the word defense means. pop stated the center position was up for grabs this year and rasho has earned the starting position.

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    Nazr will play more later. Rasho is good most of the time and especially helpful with Miami becausethey have 2 old slow big like us. If we see Detroit again maybe Alberto will get some more minutes.

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    "something Rasho has never done."

    He scored 8.4 and 11.2 PPG in his last 2 years @MIN
    At least Nazr has averaged 8 rpg during his career, something Rasho has never done.
    GOTS TO READ CAREFULLY, RPG.

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    Neither Nazr nor Rasho are capable of beating the other out for the starting position. They've each had it due to the absense of the other. But it would definitely be worth it to take a block of 10 games or so and start Nazr just to see if he could get into any kind of groove. It could be Rasho's worst nightmare. Or if not put Rasho back in the starting lineup. I understand the defensive merit system. But why not think outside the Spurs box? Do it Pop.

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    I think the only reason why rasho is playing right now instead of nazr is bcuz pop wants to raise rasho's trading value... he wants rasho to get minutes and produce so he can get something better in exchange cuz its obvious the spurs dont need him ... and its obvious they want to trade him cuz he is overpaid BIG TIME... and to me its clear nazr will start in the playoffs... right now pop hopes rasho has a few good games so he can tell: Hey, rasho isnt that bad! He's the starting center of a championship team! ... Pop is only trying to get his trade value up ... I will be really dissapointed if the spurs dont trade rasho before the deadline... I'd trade him for a donut and a cup of coffee ... but that's my opinion what do u guys think? Do you think this might be true?

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    Rasho
    career 5.9 RPG
    best season 7.7 RPG

    Nazr
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    best season 7.9 RPG

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    why rasho is playin instead of nazr
    Do I have to repeat myself?

    Spurs vs. Det
    with Rasho 24 min 33-36 diff -3
    without Rasho 24 min 35-47 diff -12


    with Nazr 6 min 6-17 diff -11
    without Nazr 42 min 62-66 diff -4

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    Do I have to repeat myself?

    Spurs vs. Det
    with Rasho 24 min 33-36 diff -3
    without Rasho 24 min 35-47 diff -12


    with Nazr 6 min 6-17 diff -11
    without Nazr 42 min 62-66 diff -4
    Let's put it this way.

    Nazr in playoffs starting lineup = le last year.
    Rasho in starting lineup in the playoffs = no le ever.

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    Let's put it this way.

    Nazr in playoffs starting lineup = le last year.
    Rasho in starting lineup in the playoffs = no le ever.

    Garnett in starting lineup in the playoffs = no le ever.

    Nazr > Garnett ????

    Stupid logic.

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