The Pistons trounced the Spurs 2 straight last year and then.

[himat]

Pistons bench is weak? That's news to me. Hunter and McDyess are more than enough to complete the Pistons 7 man rotation in the post-season. Spurs bench has the potential to be good, but so far they have not lived up to their expectations. Now, I expect Finley will have a bigger impact as the season moves along, but that's about it. Beno will not get many minutes in the post-season, if any, Nazr + Rasho=1 average Center, Horry is Horry, Barry I don't expect to see anything out of, and NVE will not see that many minutes and even if he does I don't see him having the kind of impact on the Spurs team that Hunter and McDyess have on the Pistons.

As someone else said, it's pretty much a coin-toss when it comes to Spurs or Pistons. Pistons currently have the edge because they are mentally tougher than the Spurs and more driven.

i agree. the benches right now are pretty equal, but if finley and exel mesh it can become an advantage. i don't think there styles can mesh together into a good backcourt duo because neither defend and both like shooting shots themselves.

[Marklar MM]

i never predict who wins championships, but i want to right now. you're the one who's stupid. the pistons are different, and no one is bragging about that game. i would take a tandem of a great defender in hunter, and a great playmaker in arroyo over a turnover prone udrih, and nick van exel who shoots bad shots a lot. finley is not even that good anymore, and barry is only offense while delfino is a good slasher, and finisher around the rim, maurice evans gives you hustle, boards, D, 3's and a guy who can get above the rim. dice gives us everything while horry gives you only offense. and i would take a guy who knows how to win in dale davis, and a good shotblocker in darko over rasho and oberto. look at some of the threads some of your spur fans are worried about the vabexel and finley tandem.

Horry is actually a pretty good defender...or at least I think so.

[Peter]

you idiot, that's what he's saying no one is bragging in detroit. the detroit bench isn't as weak as you think. when playoffs come hunter and dale davis will help the bench.

You idiot, you and your boyfriends are spamming this forum as if the Pistons actually won something the other night.

[Trapt1307]

What's funny is your dumbass trying to convince yourself that wins in December and January mean anything.

They do when June comes and your team has to play two game 7's in a row on the road. You really think the Spurs would have gone into Auburn Hills and won game 7? Not a chance.

If the Pistons wouldn't have had their heads collectively jammed in their assholes in November through February last season, they're talking three-peat right now.

[Peter]

What is it with Pistons fans and lame excuses for losing the Finals?

[Trapt1307]

That's lame? Please explain. And it's not really an excuse. It's the truth.

I have a lot of respect for the Spurs and their fans in general, but it's "fans" like you that act like the Spurs dominated the Pistons last year that make me laugh.

[himat]

What is it with Pistons fans and lame excuses for losing the Finals?

i want to beat the crapp out of you right now. that's not an excuse you pussy. he said the spurs would of lost at detroit, but it was at san antonio now that the pistons won that game they are one step closer to having the last 2 games at home. no one else here is saying that's an excuse. if a fellow spur fan is saying that your judgment is wrong than it has to be. no detroit fan ever talks crapp until they've won only the non piston fans do that. you don't know anything about what you're saying. seriously ask any spur fan here after the pistons won no detroit fan, except maybe for x-factor was being a like you.

[himat]

You idiot, you and your boyfriends are spamming this forum as if the Pistons actually won something the other night.

no actually ask fellow members there have been piston fans here for a little bit, not everyone registered after the game. do you know anything you're saying?

[bonesinaz]

What are there, like 5 Spurs fans on this thread and 35 piston fans?

I like Peter, he doesn't give up on his team in January like half the supposed Spur fans on this site.

[Peter]

That's lame? Please explain. And it's not really an excuse. It's the truth.

I have a lot of respect for the Spurs and their fans in general, but it's "fans" like you that act like the Spurs dominated the Pistons last year that make me laugh.

I'm not the one trying to paint a Finals loss as a victory.

[Peter]

i want to beat the crapp out of you right now. that's not an excuse you pussy. he said the spurs would of lost at detroit, but it was at san antonio now that the pistons won that game they are one step closer to having the last 2 games at home. no one else here is saying that's an excuse. if a fellow spur fan is saying that your judgment is wrong than it has to be. no detroit fan ever talks crapp until they've won only the non piston fans do that. you don't know anything about what you're saying. seriously ask any spur fan here after the pistons won no detroit fan, except maybe for x-factor was being a like you.

Blah blah blah. Yeah, I guess you show up in January and disappear in June, much like your beloved team.

[Peter]

What are there, like 5 Spurs fans on this thread and 35 piston fans?

I like Peter, he doesn't give up on his team in January like half the supposed Spur fans on this site.

Most of the "Spurs fans" here must be of the self-loathing emo variety.

[mike detroit]

Bench? Who? McDyess/Delfino/Evans? Get real. Det only had 34 bench minutes last night.

Saunders is burning his team out trying to win the January championship.

granted it was against charlotte(you guys remember them right?), but the pistons had 7 players in double digits tonight.

[FreshPrince22]

Bench? Who? McDyess/Delfino/Evans? Get real. Det only had 34 bench minutes last night.

Saunders is burning his team out trying to win the January championship.

Tonight
McDyess: 22 minutes, 16 points (7 of 9), 4 boards, 2 steals, 1 block
Evans: 19 minutes, 18 points (7 of 11), 3 boards, 1 assist, 1 steal
Arroyo: 12 minutes, 4 points (1 of 1), 8 assists, 2 boards
Delfino: 10 minutes, 2 points (2 of 2 FT), 2 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 assist

And I'm not even going to post the garbage time guys.

Sure, the Pistons won't be giving the bench tons of minutes against top level teams, but they can most definately produce. They just don't have to against top teams because the starters are so good. No one has starters even close to the Piston's.

[doldrums]

read Pistons game forums at detnews.co or mlive.com. They whine over every play claiming their guy was fouled and when they commit a foul they claim an NBA conspiracy. I must say it's a pleasure to read the Spurs blog and , for the most part, not read the whining. Pistons blogs are also vicious with violent tirades against Manu and even same referring to Arroyo as a PR. Please don't give Pistons fans that much credit for class.

[Marklar MM]

read Pistons game forums at detnews.co or mlive.com. They whine over every play claiming their guy was fouled and when they commit a foul they claim an NBA conspiracy. I must say it's a pleasure to read the Spurs blog and , for the most part, not read the whining. Pistons blogs are also vicious with violent tirades against Manu and even same referring to Arroyo as a PR. Please don't give Pistons fans that much credit for class.

[bdubya]

Off base about what? January is nothing.

Then why is your head exploding over a January loss? I don't see any Pistons fans here claiming the Thursday game meant anything other than one more regular-season game out of the way, but I do see one Spurs "fan" (hint: YOU) pissing his pants, foaming at the mouth and arguing with his own worst fears. It's kind of embarrassing to watch; please stop.

[JamStone]

Tonight
McDyess: 22 minutes, 16 points (7 of 9), 4 boards, 2 steals, 1 block
Evans: 19 minutes, 18 points (7 of 11), 3 boards, 1 assist, 1 steal
Arroyo: 12 minutes, 4 points (1 of 1), 8 assists, 2 boards
Delfino: 10 minutes, 2 points (2 of 2 FT), 2 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 assist

And I'm not even going to post the garbage time guys.

Sure, the Pistons won't be giving the bench tons of minutes against top level teams, but they can most definately produce. They just don't have to against top teams because the starters are so good. No one has starters even close to the Piston's.

Come on, FreshPrince, why would you even post about Detroit's bench against a Charlotte Bobcats team that didn't even have Emeka Okafor, Sean May, Kareem Rush, or Melvin Ely, that played Gerald Wallace and Jumaine Jones at power forward, and were at Detroit off a back-to-back???

Do you just want the Spurs more argumentative fans to just keep debating with you?

Tonight's game in no way represents how much Flip has played them consistently throughout the season, nor is it a very good indication of their production (or lack thereof) so far this season.

[Nephets]

We wouldn't be arguing if we were all Hawks fans!

Oh, and Peter, real manly of you to call me Pee Wee Herman in the mist of all of this.

Stay on topic at least you goon.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Who's arguing? He hasn't made a solid point yet besides it's early in the season; we all agree on that no?

[Nephets]

Peter is trying to start here with you Pistons fans, that's the problem here.

Every team has bull fans, so don't put anything negative slapped on Pistons fans that post here that actually contribute and don't flame the team in which the forum is based upon. And calling people names just goes to show Peter is immature.

[FreshPrince22]

Come on, FreshPrince, why would you even post about Detroit's bench against a Charlotte Bobcats team that didn't even have Emeka Okafor, Sean May, Kareem Rush, or Melvin Ely, that played Gerald Wallace and Jumaine Jones at power forward, and were at Detroit off a back-to-back???

Do you just want the Spurs more argumentative fans to just keep debating with you?

You pointing these facts out is the only thing that is going to make them argumentative So there! Look what you did!

Still, production is production. The bench got it going and let our starters rest. The post I replied to said Flip was going to wear out the Pistons going for the "January Championship" because or bench can't produce. It wasn't about the bench in regards to playing the Spurs. Today the bench stepped up so our starters got some big rest. That's all that matters.

Hopefully Maurice's 18 point game (including a couple treys) will get his confidence back up to where it was at the beginning of the season. That dude was absolutely on fire from three from pre-season through the first couple weeks.

[Pistons_In_Four]

Peter is an idiot with an obvious lack of intelligence and basketball I.Q.

[himat]

Blah blah blah. Yeah, I guess you show up in January and disappear in June, much like your beloved team.

lets have a bet then, if you think the pistons dissapear in the playoffs. pistons in 6.

[himat]

Peter is an idiot with an obvious lack of intelligence and basketball I.Q.

got you there he won't back down, but his reasoning is stupid, he's so damn annoying. all he says is that pistons dissapear. if anything the pistons besides this season have underacheived in the regular season, but have done great come playoff time.