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    Again,

    Did you not learn anything from my previous post? Did you read her letter or you just responded with your prejudgment of her?

    She said she was never given a chance to leave peacefully. She was immediately rush away and arrested being left with bruises and muscle spasms. She said they never asked her to leave, they never asked her to cover it up, they just rushed her out.

    Why is it so hard for you to understand that?
    And did you not learn anything from mine?

    And I don't buy the whole "poor little old lady got hurt for not doing a single, itty bitty thing wrong" routine. "They've" been having her pull far too many similar stunts for a while now for her not to know whatever she does is not without consequence.

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    Nice try avoiding the point that both people were treated differently. Did Cindy all of a sudden lose certain liberties because she's a known anti-war activist? It seems as though that's how you feel.

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    Sorry, but I don't believe Cindy's account of what happened. She's a loony liar and will say anything to get sympathy.

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    And Bush said Saddam was behind 9/11.

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    Nice try avoiding the point that both people were treated differently. Did Cindy all of a sudden lose certain liberties because she's a known anti-war activist? It seems as though that's how you feel.
    By losing liberties, do you mean she all of the sudden lost the right to break the law in the Capital building?

    And as for being treated differently, a known trouble maker will get treated more harshly 99% of the time than a first time offender. That's pretty much true in any situation.

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    You mean the Capital building in which Bush, who said himself he needs a court order for wiretaps, but then broke that law, gave his speech? That building?

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    And if supposedly both women broke the law by both wearing their shirts, why was one rushed out and arrested without asking her to leave and the other allowed to leave on her own?

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    And as for being treated differently, a known trouble maker will get treated more harshly 99% of the time than a first time offender. That's pretty much true in any situation.

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    Easy to label her a trouble maker. Her activism is because of the trouble this administration has caused.

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    And as for being treated differently, a known trouble maker will get treated more harshly 99% of the time than a first time offender. That's pretty much true in any situation.
    So that justifies it. I see. Now is this a law?

    "Hey, it's Cindy Sheehan, she's wearing an anti-war shirt and she's done this before, let's immediately arrest her for it."

    "Hey, it's a Republican also wearing a shirt that breaks the law, let's let her know she has to leave on her own, because we had or have to arrest Sheehan and you know how that would look"

    In the end, they supposedly both broke the same law. One arrested and bruised, one left unharmed.

    Isn't there something wrong here?

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    Maybe, maybe not. But it certainly didn't originate in that situation. I also don't fully believe the weepy story about her never getting a chance to leave peacefully, either. Maybe that's just why I'm not filled with such righteous indignation.

    She's pulled too many stunts already and suffered the consequences to know that they'll be watching her especially hard. So she pulled another one and suffered the consequences again. Rinse. Repeat.

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    Maybe, maybe not. But it certainly didn't originate in that situation. I also don't fully believe the weepy story about her never getting a chance to leave peacefully, either. Maybe that's just why I'm not filled with such righteous indignation.

    She's pulled too many stunts already and suffered the consequences to know that they'll be watching her especially hard. So she she pulled another one and suffered the consequences again. Rinse. Repeat.
    Okay, you've got SA210 posting two to your one. Keep it up and it'll be 3 to 1.

    I'm enjoying just seeing your side of the conversation though. In fact, I'm enjoying just seeing you post...I miss ya!

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    Maybe, maybe not. But it certainly didn't originate in that situation. I also don't fully believe the weepy story about her never getting a chance to leave peacefully, either. Maybe that's just why I'm not filled with such righteous indignation.

    She's pulled too many stunts already and suffered the consequences to know that they'll be watching her especially hard. So she she pulled another one and suffered the consequences again. Rinse. Repeat.
    Well, that makes it easy again to say you don't believe her.
    More than half the country also doesn't believe most of Bush' lies and stories. He's pulled too many stunts without consequence and thousands are dead. Rinse. Repeat.

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    By the way, his name is Mike Weight.
    I'm gonna send that man a cookie bouquet.

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    Damn, you're either using someone else's sentences, someone else's talking points, or posting someone else's photoshops. I'm noticing a trend.

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    I notice a trend. That what you just posted didn't change the facts. It usually happens that way.

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    I wore the shirt to make a statement. The press knew I was going to be there and I thought every once in awhile they would show me and I would have the shirt on. I did not wear it to be disruptive.I did not wear it to be disruptive, or I would have unzipped my jacket during George's speech. If I had any idea what happens to people who wear shirts that make the neocons uncomfortable...that I would be arrested...maybe I would have, but I didn't.
    Does anyone else see that as a contradiction?

    Cindy wore the shirt with the intention of drawing attention to herself. In a setting where people have gathered to here one person speak, that is disruptive.
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    http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01...rest/index.html

    Sheehan arrested in House gallery

    Tuesday, January 31, 2006; Posted: 10:26 p.m. EST (03:26 GMT)
    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Peace activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested Tuesday in the House gallery after refusing to cover up a T-shirt bearing an anti-war slogan before President Bush's State of the Union address.

    "She was asked to cover it up. She did not," said Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, U.S. Capitol Police spokeswoman, adding that Sheehan was arrested for unlawful conduct, a misdemeanor.


    Tuesday, January 31st, 2005
    What Really Happened.

    ...a message from Cindy Sheehan


    I was never told that I couldn't wear that shirt into the Congress. I was never asked to take it off or zip my jacket back up.
    If I had been asked to do any of those things...I would have, and written about the suppression of my freedom of speech later. I was immediately, and roughly (I have the bruises and muscle spasms to prove it) hauled off and arrested for "unlawful conduct."
    Okay, someone is outright lying.

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    One was bruised and arrested, one was allowed to leave peacefully on her own.

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    And just out of curiousity because I really don't know, but is it customary/ acceptable to wear a t-shirt when attending the President's State of the Nation address? Surely the congresswoman Cindy attended with was dressed more formally.

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    Well, the wife of the Republican wore a shirt as well, but it seems weird how she was given a choice to walk out on her own with no bruises or being arrested.

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    And Bush said Saddam was behind 9/11.
    he did ? link ? link ? never heard of that ......must be out of the loop. I know he talked about WMD - but then so did clinton, chirac, putin, kerry. hillary and a looooooooooooong list of world leaders everywhere

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    I don't see why we should just take Cindy Sheehan's word about what happened any more than you should just take the officer's word for it.

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    Common, do any of you seriously think the Capital Police didn't know that Sheehan was gonna be there? They were looking for a reason to get her out of there and when they saw one they took it. I think the people who say that Sheehan would have better advanced her cause had she managed to stay in the chamber are right, to a point, and I say that because the major News media has thus far done everything they can to avoid Sheehan. Where is Barbara Walters? 60 minutes? Larry King?

    Sheehan's statements are always taken out of context by the right-wing echo chamber. They, with their soundbite politics, could have made Shakespere himself sound like Fidel Castro. That's what I see going on, everyone has fallen for the, oh that's just 'wacky Cindy' going on again. However, Cindy just keeps trumping them at every turn. Everytime they stick a mic in her grill she manages to say the right things. Now if America was only listening.

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    Ever heard of "rank has its privileges"? The replican was the wife of a congressman; Cindy Sheehan is a known protester and troublemaker.

    BTW - I haven't seen anything about the woman who invited Cindy. The representative from California is a member of an extreme left-wing group - you don't think she might have had an agenda?

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