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Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that email. She clearly overreacted.
I for one don't blame the council woman for this man's suicide.
Racist? Depends on how you read it but to me I can see how one could interpret it that way. Simply because you don't use doesn't make it that but who the knows and I don't think this one incident was it but a whole lot of other stuff we will never know and quite frankly it is none of our business.
I know some won't like my post but it is what it is.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that email. She clearly overreacted.
Ive been to Graham Central Station before, and I've never experience debaucheric behavior there. As for the neighboring area, well, there are some big houses on Callaghan but I doubt that GCS being there has hurt property values of any of the surrounding area.
By the way, I want to stress to everyone just how selfish committing suicide can be. This guy worked for Zachry, so you know he had some cash stashed away for retirement, and after 20+ years he finally gets his chance and now his kids and grand-kids have to live without a father and grandfather, and for what?
I still don't understand why her first reaction was to address his supervisors rather than address him directly. That, to me, is poor judgment and reflects a lack of commitment to the public service aspect of being a councilperson. She was elected, in part, to be responsive to cons uents who bring concerns. This guy had some apparently legitimate concerns and while he may have raised them inartfully, that doesn't change the fact that he had a point.
It would appear that she's more interested in political aggrandizement than about actually solving problems raised by her cons uents.
Nice responsiveness to the voting public, councilwoman.
The shame of it is, that's rampant in politics now.
Totally. The guy was obviously pissed when he wrote that, but there was nothing that was personally insulting or threatening. As for the "very racial and very discriminatory" characterization of his email by the councilwoman, I don't see that. You have to read into what he said to get there. Frankly I did not expect to read a letter that coherent and organized based on media reports. Do her cons uents have to live in fear of her reporting them to their bosses if she doesn't like what they write her?
And people are never drunk upon leaving a club.
Who knows, perhaps in his mind he was sparing his family the embarrasment of having him around after this incident? After all, thanks to the great councilwoman, he was made out to be Bull Connor to the entire city.By the way, I want to stress to everyone just how selfish committing suicide can be. This guy worked for Zachry, so you know he had some cash stashed away for retirement, and after 20+ years he finally gets his chance and now his kids and grand-kids have to live without a father and grandfather, and for what?
I don't understand either, but I'm not surprised in the least.
There's clubs and drunks all over town, not just that area.And people are never drunk upon leaving a club.
I think it had something to do with a pervious e-mail incident coming from the Zachry e-mail system. The company probably ins uted strict policies about using company equipment for personal use. He could have been fired for that alone, forget the allegations of racism.I still don't understand why her first reaction was to address his supervisors rather than address him directly.
That one is a major public nuisance and is on the verge of losing its liquor license because of that.
But when did it become a councilwoman's job to report somebody for an internal company matter?
Right, and how did the firm find out about that?
And obviously, to this councilwoman, the most important issue raised by the employee's e-mail was the violation of a private company's e-mail policies, and not addressing the issues raised by her cons uent.
That, to me, is troubling.
And it's possible that the guy didn't know about different email servers, my aunt is 51 and she didn't know that yahoo gave you free email. That may explain why he used his employers. As for her political career I think it's over. People know about Graham's reputation, and her opponent just has to bring up the fact she helped a cons uent lose his job.
Hispanics are the minority in San Antonio?
Fact is the man broke company policy and this councilwoman had NOTHING to do with his decision to do so.
Was her decision a bad one? I don't know how I'd react but I think it is human nature to respond and perhaps she was having a bad day and responded foolishly.
I agree with Jack Ricardi and I will not put the blame of this man's suicide on her. But that is just me and I'm just a simple man but from the posts that I've read I'm in the minority on this one but that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
I know it may sound cold but Emails don't kill people guns do.
And that is just another reason I refuse to have a gun in the house.
To be clear, I'm not placing blame for his suicide on the councilwoman. My concern is that this guy went to his councilperson with a complaint -- one that the councilperson is best suited to deal with. Rather than deal with the substance of his complaint -- however poorly worded it might have been -- and talking to this guy directly, she ignored the complaint and interjected herself into the affairs of a private business.
Are you comfortable with the notion, Joe, that council members should just ignore complaints raised by cons uents because of the means used to convey that complaint? Doesn't she have some sort of obligation to at least address the issue raised by the message no matter how that message was presented to her?
Joe, I think the company fired erson, not because he violated the company email policy, but rather because it feared negative press on the issue. A company is not going to fire a 25+ year employee over a company email policy. The company was probably afraid that the council woman would go public and that forced the company's hand.
It was a vindictive act by a woman who is supposed to hear these kinds of complaints.
Can any of her cons uents feel safe going to her with complaints now? Are they going to have to be extra careful to state their complaints in a manner that don't offend her or risk retribution?
Would it have been any different if he had used a personal email account but identified himself as an employee of Zachary? Going by the standard presented by the councilwoman, I'm not sure it would be different.
I'm still not seeing how the email was "very racial and very discriminatory". About the only thing she could really complain about based on the text of the email was that the guy was a snob. He didn't say one thing about the race of the people he was complaining about. His complaints were based primarily on his observations of what was happening outside the club in the area (ie drunken driving deaths and mayhem). It was clear that was what was pissing him off, the behavior that he claimed was routine. Can a citizen not complain about a public nuisance?
And considering it looks as though she read even more into the email than was necessarily there, that'd make me even more reluctant to raise my voice about anything. I'm pretty sure that defeats the purpose of her position.
this is from Chris Duels website
There was a follow up e-mail
http://p078.ezboard.com/f550undergro...cID=7907.topic
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OMFG.
That was not in the SLIGHTEST bit hostile, racist or discriminatory. I hope she rots.
^^So much for a request for confidentiality from a politician wanting to stir up
a little division in race relations. Wonder who Lisa Juarez is? Maybe he had
some contact with the councilwoman's office before this incident. This mornings
paper says the councilwoman called Zachry and requested that he not be fired.
But if I read the first article correctly looks like Zachry was in line to get some
taxpayer money from the city and didn't want to step on any toes.
Here is link to yesterdays article in the E-N:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/cit....17f524e4.html
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