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if the pistons want to beat that bulls record, there gonna have to pretty much win out the rest of the season.
Yeah the big question here is if. Maybe rephrase it to if somehow.
if the pistons want to beat that bulls record, there gonna have to pretty much win out the rest of the season.
I think the pistons are the 3rd best team in the league. The spurs and mavs haven't been healthy for a lot of the year while the pistons have been injury free. The pistons have gotten the breaks and that is why their record is so good. Expect it to get closer soon.
Yep, 34-2 to beat the Bulls' record, 33-3 to tie it, 31-5 to get 70. All unlikely.
But, as has been intimated by several people already, I don't think the Pistons players much care about beating the Bulls' record or even getting 70 wins.
I think the Utah Jazz is the second best team behind the Spurs, since the Jazz are 3-1 against the Pistons and Mavericks and they've had major injuries to Kirilenko and Boozer all season long.
Wow, if we keep using excuses we can drop the Pistons further and further. This is fun!
Screw this win-loss nonsense, I bet the Pistons are REALLY the 9th best team in the East (because of injuries and uhh stuff), therefore they shouldn't be in the playoffs. Someone call the NBA.
Those losers - 39-7.
Dallas, Washington, Cleveland, New Jersey, Indiana, and Utah (2) have all beat them! I mean, that's 6 teams that are obviously better than they are.
Well Dallas gave the pistons a whooping. Howard owns Prince for sure.
No argument there, outside an individual matchup comparision. That was a thrashing, an ass whuppin'.
There's still one more game. I look forward to see what happens.
Pistons 70 still possible?
Answer it never was - the Pistons are a great team but certainly not in the class of the Bulls team. Their ppg differential is mundane for their record.
Prediction Pistons 66 games +/- 2 and more likely in the lower range.
Pistons have 36 games left.
To win 70, they must finish 31 - 5 (they've already done 37-5 in 1st half) .
To win 64, they finish just 25 - 11 ( only injuries will push them that low )
I figure they'll come in 68 - 66 Ws.
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Say the Pistons finish improbably low at 66 - 16.
Therefore, to win Finals HCA, the Spurs must finish 67 - 15.
Meaning the Spurs must finish 30 - 5 (they started only 30 - 9).
Spurs could finish 30 - 5 only with everybody healthy (Tim isn't) and gelling very quickly, esp the defense.
But finishing 30 - 5 and 66 - 15 probably won't win Finals HCA for the Spurs, since the Pistons will probably win 66 - 68.
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Spurs can't win Finals HCA without extensive Pistons injuries, so forget about Finals HCA. The Spurs can only shoot for stealing back HCA with split of Games1,2 @Auburn Hills.
Spurs have to concentrate on WC HCA.
Spurs are now 2nd in SWD, and 4th in WC.
Spurs can't do anything about the Pistons, but they play the Mavs 2 more times.
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The Pistons are the THIRD best team in the league?Just because the Mavs happened to have beat them in their first meeting in the regular season, does not mean that the Mavs>>>>>Pistons. Get a grip. Mavs are a surprisingly good team and I have no doubt they'll give the Spurs some trouble if they meet in the postseason. But your blatant disregard and downplaying of the Pistons in almost every "Piston thread" on the forum is getting a little too much.
I'm a Spurs fan, I get the homerism aspect of being a fan. But, seriously how can you use "excuses" such as injuries to help support your Mavs while using the same "Excuse" to discredit the Pistons. Bottom line is, it's all luck. Mavs and Spurs have had some bad luck injury-wise and Pistons have had some good-luck. I'm not saying the Pistons are unbeatable or that the Mavs or Spurs are better than them. It's the regular season and there's still a whole second half of the season to be played.
Hmm, lately i've wanted the Pistons to win 70 games, because it looked like they were gonna get HCA anyways, and it would make us look better when we beat them in the Finals.
But now , with the losses they've had recently, we might catch them afterall, and now see myself rooting for them to lose, rather than get 70.
But if we start losing again, and they get on a roll, i'll go right back to rooting for them to get 70
I agree with you that the Spurs can only concentrate on what they can control and right now, all they can control is their division and conference.
Detroit is 4 games up in the loss column on the Spurs, which is insurmountable, absent an extremely-unlikely collapse by the Pistons.
As for things closer to home, the Spurs would actually own the tiebreaker over Dallas right now, because the teams have split their games and the Spurs a 3 game lead in the loss column for the second tiebreaker, conference record. They have the Mavs two more times, but both of those games will be in San Antonio and neither will have any clouding. (both teams have 2 days off before the 3/2 matchup and neither will be on a back-to-back for the 4/7 game).
Spurs just need to make sure they get WC HCA. Injuries aside, it's very unlikely that the Spurs will be able to get HCA over Pistons. They need to worry about the WC first. And I'm pretty sure they're gonna meet the Mavs down the road in the Playoffs simply because they are both gonna be at the top in the WC.
Actually, as of Friday night, it's 3 games, and Dallas was up further than that in 2003. That being said, I'm looking only at Dallas right now. It sucks that we can only meet in the second round. The 2-3 bracket gets almost a free pass to the WCFs.Detroit is 4 games up in the loss column on the Spurs, which is insurmountable, absent an extremely-unlikely collapse by the Pistons.
Yes Dallas and San Antonio are both screwed due to these divisions. Phoenix has the 2 seed all by themselves and will most likely play a tired spurs or mavs team in a series that will either go 6 or 7 games. Phoenix will have plenty of time to get Amare healthy and used to playing in the starting lineup. The setup favors Phoenix big time.
"it's 3 games"
To win Finals HCA, Friday the Spurs "Ls back" dropped by 5 to 4 games, since we must end up with a better record than the Pistons for HCA.
If Spurs and Pistsons tie, the Spurs lose the first tiebreaker (season series between tied teams).
i don't think it will happen, but the 70 wins is still possible. the pistons will have to go 31-5, and if they get a good winning streak they can very well reach there.
Well, these recent losses have helped us figure out at least two ways to beat the Pistons: Outrebound them while keep THEM off the offensive glass and shut down Billups
Easy.
The key to the spurs success is Manu returning to all star level. If he doesn't do this the spurs are very beatable.
Actually, to win HCA, it's 4 games. A tie in the loss column with the Pistons does the Spurs no good. So, if the Pistons lose only 3 more times than the Spurs the rest of the way, the teams will be tied and the Pistons hold the tiebreaker. Thus, the Spurs have a shot at HCA in the Finals over the Pistons only if the Pistons lose 4 more games that the Spurs do the rest of the way. Therefore, the Spurs are 4 back in the loss column for HCA.
I also don't think the 2005-06 Pistons are like the 2002-03 Mavericks.
Ah, my bad. 4 actual tie breaker games it is.
In some ways, they're not, but like all of the Nelson teams, Detroit overplays their starters this year. I'm wondering if that may not be why they are not so invincible right about now. Did Flip do this in Minny, too?I also don't think the 2005-06 Pistons are like the 2002-03 Mavericks.
Flip did burn out the T'Wolves at least once that I can think of, but, again, I can't see this Pistons team having the same sort of problems that either the T'Wolves or the Mavs had in the years that the Spurs made up big deficits.
It also doesn't help the Spurs chances that the Pistons play in the East and will have an East-heavy schedule down the stretch of the season.
The pistons aren't going to win 70 games. I predict 65 games which the mavs or spurs could possibly get also. It is not a lock the pistons get the best record.
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