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    I think you misunderstand the role of the center on the Spurs team.

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    I think you misunderstand the role of the center on the Spurs team.
    No i think you misunderstand why the spurs win. don't forget Nazr was the center last year, please explain that away. And in cruch time Timmy becomes the Center. Spurs need someone to bang and get offensive rebounds much like malik did.

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    don't forget Nazr was the center last year, please explain that away.
    Explain why he isn't this year.

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    Wife almost died during training camp. Is that enough of a reason for you.

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    One thing's for sure, we won't beat Detroit with Rasho being his usual soft self inside.

    The fact is we're going to need Nazr to beat them, so why not give him quality PT now to get in the flow of the defense?

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    Wife almost died during training camp. Is that enough of a reason for you.
    That was months ago. Why not now?

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    Wife almost died during training camp. Is that enough of a reason for you.
    She almost died????

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    One thing's for sure, we won't beat Detroit with Rasho being his usual soft self inside.

    The fact is we're going to need Nazr to beat them, so why not give him quality PT now to get in the flow of the defense?
    I'm not suggesting the spurs just give him minutes when he doesn't deserve them. I'm saying his recent play has earned him more minutes and hopefully he continues to play well enough to justify sitting Rasho much like they did last year when they won it all.

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    She almost died????
    My understanding, but maybe the severity of what happened makes it much less of an excuse.

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    That was months ago. Why not now?
    What now?

    He's shaping up and looks like he's going to eventualy get back to where he was last year if not better.

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    He's shaping up and looks like he's going to eventualy get back to where he was last year if not better.
    Good for him.

    Get better on D.

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    Good for him.

    Get better on D.
    No, good for us as spurs fans. I rather enjoy bragging rights.

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    [quote]That was months ago. Why not now?[quote]

    Well, if you believe what you read in the press the Spurs have only practiced about 8 times total in the past month.

    Kinda hard to get a feel for something like team defense when you only practiced 8 times in over a month.

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    I really don't understand the constant bashing of either of them. We're not the Pistons, we don't have an all-star at every position, but our bench (ordinarily) is way better than theirs. That's the trade off. We don't put all our eggs in the starting five basket.

    I wish people would just accept Rasho and Nazr for they are. They're not the Admiral, but they're not Kandi or Dampier either. In a 82 game season, one will play better than the other half the time and vice versa.

    Maybe one out of ten games both will play well at the same time, and one out of ten games they'll both be terrible. Those days we go with Timmy at 5 and Horry at 4 for the crunch time lineup...

    You people wanna pick on anyone, pick on Barry and NVE, who've both been consistently awful the whole year. I've kept defending Brent on and on and on, and I'm almost ready to give up on him, just like Pop is. His shot is just gone.

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    So maybe at the end of his next six year contract, we might be able to have confidence in Nazr's team D.

    Fine.

    Nazr knows what he needs to do. Let him do it in the 18mpgs he's been getting lately.

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    It's really hard to give one an edge over the other. Rasho does a bunch of things a little bit better than Nazr does. He's craftier around the basket, he has better hands, he's a better help defender, a better shot blocker.

    However, Nazr is the MUCH better rebounder. It really depends on who we play and what kind of game it is to be able to figure out who's gonna be more valuable that day, but I don't think either one deserves to get the lion's share of the minutes over the other during the course of the season.

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    So maybe at the end of his next six year contract, we might be able to have confidence in Nazr's team D.

    Fine.

    Nazr knows what he needs to do. Let him do it in the 18mpgs he's been getting lately.
    Mistake to focus on players weaknesses especially since their strengths have won the spurs championships. It's the same argument I have with the recently departed Tony haters who used to focus on his weaknesses instead of appreciating his strengths. Nobody is denying Nazr doesn't have to improve. BTW, do you still think Manu is better off the bench?

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    Mistake to focus on players weaknesses
    It's the weakness that keeps him from starting. Your mistake is ignoring what this team is about and what it expects from a starting center (Offense? Please say that was a joke - I didn't think you were that ignorant).

    Manu is the same off the bench. That was never the question.

    Is Finley better off the bench? You tell me.

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    Nazr is suffering from post-partum depression. Tim too maybe. Did Finley and Barry's wives have babies?

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    My understanding, but maybe the severity of what happened makes it much less of an excuse.
    I hadn't heard that it was even close to that serious. But who knows.

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    Kinda hard to get a feel for something like team defense when you only practiced 8 times in over a month.
    Hes been with the team over a year.

    Give me a break.

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    Nazr is suffering from post-partum depression. Tim too maybe. Did Finley and Barry's wives have babies?
    Barry's wife did. But that was just last month.

    So did Marks, PJ, Mike Bud, etc.

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    It's the weakness that keeps him from starting. Your mistake is ignoring what this team is about and what it expects from a starting center (Offense? Please say that was a joke - I didn't think you were that ignorant).

    Manu is the same off the bench. That was never the question.

    Is Finley better off the bench? You tell me.
    Spurs do expect D from the starting center, but REBOUNDING should be guaranteed from that position. Rasho is too much of a liability on the boards for the spurs to beat the good aggressive teams. Nazr at least gives us rebouding, aggressiveness, more offense, and not great D but good enough with key blocks down the stretch of games. Note game 7 of the finals when he swated Ben Wallaces shot in a crucial situation. He had a similar block against the nets too.

    BTW, Finley is inconsistent starting and from the bench but who cares this team revolves around Tim, Tony, Manu, and Bruce. The stiffs like Finley have got to step up whatever their role are on the team. You just remind me of how much I miss Devin Brown.

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    I hadn't heard that it was even close to that serious. But who knows.
    You're supposed to know .

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    Spurs do expect D from the starting center.
    So you know what Nazr needs to do as well.

    Great.

    Let him do it.

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