Brent Barry's Revenge

[T Park]

Brent Barry is in Rasho Nesterovic level of "WTF they are talented, but why arent they showing it" level.


Brent was a stud with Seattle.
but the Spurs curse of jinxing good shooters has hit him as well.

Finley, Barry, Kerr in 99 have felt the rath of this horrible bug.

all Barry has to do for me, is be agressive.

If you get a shot in motion, TAKE IT.

I also wish hed drive to the hoop more, hes prob the best finisher at the hoop with Ginobili and Parker on the team.


Keep it up Brent, Im still rootin for you.

[DieMrBond]

I for one, was glad Brent wasnt traded. I may be biased, as he is one of my favourite players, but on the (unfortunately) rare occasion when his game is 'on', he adds so much to this team. Heck, even Charley Rosen (a noted pessimist) thinks that he should get more run on the team over Finley and Van Ex!

And so far, the non-trade does seem to be doing good for him. Maybe he needs to be like Gilbert Arenas, and keep newspaper articles and re-read negative things said about him before the game (like the trade), so that he plays well?

2/2. Lets hope it continues.

[Peter]

Holy the Spurs could've had JR Smith for Brent Barry.

[T Park]

even Charley Rosen (a noted pessimist) thinks that he should get more run on the team over Finley and Van Ex!

can't say thats much of a mark in Brent's corner.

Maybe he needs to be like Gilbert Arenas, and keep newspaper articles and re-read negative things said about him before the game (like the trade), so that he plays well?

lol

Ex had a thing going last year, everytime he posted something bad during a game blog, he did something good.

Either that, or someone pissed him off.

[5ToolMan]

I disagree. If flexibility was all they desired, they never would have signed Barry to that deal in the first place, and this trade wouldn't have been considered if Barry had played the minutes and role envisioned by the Spurs. Same goes for Malik and Rasho. It was completely easy for me to predict Barry and Rasho as being the trade pieces this year because their court time per $ ratios are the furthest out of whack - and the court time expected for both was much higher at the time each was signed.

When they signed Barry they had no clue and no reason to expect Finley to drop into their laps for next to nothing in pay. They also did not know that Spree would be waiting in the wings to perhaps take up Barry's spot for a fraction of his cost and still leave more roster flexability for the near future.

What I am trying to drive home, is it is not about ONLY what Barry is making in relation to what he is delivering. Moving a player has just as much to do with what the other options are are available. Many say Rasho is overpaid for what he is delevering. Yet he stays because the savings AND the value he would be replaced by don't add up to near what he brings. With Barry, the savings AND being able to have Finley AND perhaps Spree for less money WITH more salary flexability, make Brent easier to consider to move.

Even if Brent were playing up to all expectations of his salary, If Finley AND Spree could bring more for less, you still look at pulling the trigger, hard as it may be.

[ChumpDumper]

We're saying the same thing with a different emphasis. Finley, as much as he has underperformed, has brought more than the Spurs expected Barry to. Last season Devin Brown was on the way to replacing him in the rotation before his back injury, so this season is hardly unique. It gets to a point where it simply doesnt' make financial sense to keep paying a player to play so little. Rasho was on the block over the summer after not playing in the playoffs -- his play this season changed the Spurs minds and there was nary a peep about his being dealt this season. Perhaps that was just CIA, but I'm inclined to think that the FO's opinion of players can be quite fluid when their PT/cost ratio is on the bubble like Rasho's. If Barry continues to play as he has lately, that could change as well -- but if Smith is on the table this summer, the Spurs may find him difficult to resist.

[kobe_bryant]

i told phil to go for brent barry last week






































































brent barry for a pair of game-used sock wore by shaq
holt said he would get back to us

[Fabbs]

^^^ I'm sure you'll have a nice view of Barry in the playoffs and finals.

From your t.v. set, loser

Of course maybe your .500 team will make it in.

[5ToolMan]

We're saying the same thing with a different emphasis. Finley, as much as he has underperformed, has brought more than the Spurs expected Barry to. Last season Devin Brown was on the way to replacing him in the rotation before his back injury, so this season is hardly unique. It gets to a point where it simply doesnt' make financial sense to keep paying a player to play so little. Rasho was on the block over the summer after not playing in the playoffs -- his play this season changed the Spurs minds and there was nary a peep about his being dealt this season. Perhaps that was just CIA, but I'm inclined to think that the FO's opinion of players can be quite fluid when their PT/cost ratio is on the bubble like Rasho's. If Barry continues to play as he has lately, that could change as well -- but if Smith is on the table this summer, the Spurs may find him difficult to resist.

I agree a players percieved value in relation to other percieved options is always very fluid. It is the FO's job and duty to love his players ... until a better value appears.

I also believe that those factors have more of an influence upon decisions to move a player than what he is delivering in relation to his salary. While Rasho is greatly paid compared to what he delivers, he brings more than enough to make it hard to replace his size and skills.

[milkyway21]

i told phil to go for brent barry last week

intriguing!

this Kobe Bryant's favorite team is Miami Heat!

[timvp]

Barry with another game where he is the spark. Too bad it took an almost trade to make him play this way. This is why the Spurs signed him.

Hopefully Pop can ride this wave and find him a little more time.

[Sec24Row7]

almost trade him between every round of the playoffs!

[Rummpd]

Barry right now is five times the player as NVE

[ChumpDumper]

Well he got paid five times as much for almost five times as long.

Bout time.

[Rummpd]

Fair point!

[wildbill2u]

I hope we all agree that Barry needs to play the rest of his career here, however long it is, with the same type of contribution as in his last few games.

This team still has the potential to be the best Spurs team ever because of quality depth, but it hasn't quite made it yet. Maybe Finley and Barry are starting to come around and realize THEY have to play like part of the championship team.

[timvp]

I hope we all agree that Barry needs to play the rest of his career here, however long it is, with the same type of contribution as in his last few games.

Even if Barry plays up to his contract, I'd still trade him for JR Smith in the offseason. The Spurs need to get younger on the perimeter.

[Mr. Body]

I hope we all agree that Barry needs to play the rest of his career here, however long it is, with the same type of contribution as in his last few games.

This team still has the potential to be the best Spurs team ever because of quality depth, but it hasn't quite made it yet. Maybe Finley and Barry are starting to come around and realize THEY have to play like part of the championship team.

You're seeing flashes only now from them where they feel like they belong on the court as Spurs. They've been far too deferential. Van Exel is a guy, on the other hand, who seems to understand he can help most by attacking. Unfortunately, his body isn't quite there any more.

[timvp]

Bump.






J.R. Smith was the MVP of Game 2.

[GoSpurs21]

still Barry was clutch when nve was suck...

[kris]

Oh I see your game. Barry does good and you say I told you he needed to play good for us to win. Barry plays bad and you say I told you if he didn't play good we'd lose.

Well you know what, it's not working this time. I want the Spurs to lose so I can brag about how I was right on the Internet to all my cyber rivals and take lots of pride all the way. If they win, I'll tell you they did what I said they had to do. This is my profession - NOT YOURS. I'm the internet slot jockey that rides the fence ever so balanced, you sir are nothing but an amateur.

Good day.

[Gummi]

I'm quite happy for Brent to have two good games per series. I don't expect him to average 12 ppg because he's a role player and role players usually don't play great all the time. Now Barry has had two pretty good games, Game 1 he was very solid with two 3's and of course Game 2 he was very good with 22 points.

Also, fans don't forget that it's always nice to have a player on the bench that can shoot the ball. Barry's IMO one the best in the league in that.

[Tigole Bitties]

Also, fans don't forget that it's always nice to have a player on the bench that can shoot the ball. Barry's IMO one the best in the league in that.

Yes, he's basically a more athletic Stevie Kerr. Not quite the instant offense off the bench, but good enough to warrant that $3mil/yr contract.

I can see him paired up with Marv Albert doing color commentary after he retires.

[ploto]

A picture is worth a thousand words.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Barry's role was different in Games 6 & 7 of the Finals and that is why he was successful. When Tony went to the bench, the ball was in Barry's hands- creating for himself and others. That is his strength. For me, if Beno wasn't hardly going to get to play, I wish Barry had been the back-up point guard this season.

Damn straight, exactly what I think. He's never been given the go at backup point, but that's why I thought we acquired him. What the he's doing behind Van X in the rotation I don't know. And but for his efforts in games 5-7 last year, we may not have been champs - he carried us for a few stretches and made some big hustle plays.

Free BB!