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    They looked the same today. No defense. We didn't play any either but we were missing what helps anchor our defense in Josh Howard and didn't have KVH or Harris and we missed some open shots and missed some rebounds and that's really why we lost.

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    They looked the same today. No defense. We didn't play any either but we were missing what helps anchor our defense in Josh Howard and didn't have KVH or Harris and we missed some open shots and missed some rebounds and that's really why we lost.
    That's a reason why Phoenix deserves props for this win.
    Without Kurt Thomas, Suns' defense isn't the same.

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    Amare is the one person I hate in this league.

    Those commercials lately really bother me. He hasn't even made a successful comeback, yet they're acting like he has. Man, push-ups bother me too.

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    It was a good win for Phoenix, but they only took us to 5 games with Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudamire last year. Likewise, they won't beat us with Kurt Thomas and Amare Stoudamire this year, even with the other help that they got in Diaw and Tim Thomas.

    I like the Suns a lot, and if we go down, I will be pulling for them. But beating the Spurs 4 games out of 7 is a tough proposition.

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    For all intents and purposes, Johnson could barely see out of one eye, so I wouldn't start pretending that the Suns were completely healthy.

    Spurs whooped the Suns, but as said by a Spurs fan here, it was the closest five-game series every played. Every game was determined by one shot.

    With a little more experience, maybe the Suns make a few more of those shots.

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    For all intents and purposes, Johnson could barely see out of one eye, so I wouldn't start pretending that the Suns were completely healthy.

    Spurs whooped the Suns, but as said by a Spurs fan here, it was the closest five-game series every played. Every game was determined by one shot.

    With a little more experience, maybe the Suns make a few more of those shots.
    Joe Johnson, or as he's known in Phoenix, Bill Braskey...

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    ...They came close the first game.
    Close means absolutely nothing.

    There's no such thing as "almost" beat them - and it doesn't mean a team has any more chance the next time. It probably means the team will lose another "close" game again.

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    Spurs whooped the Suns, but as said by a Spurs fan here, it was the closest five-game series every played. Every game was determined by one shot.
    I must have missed when the NBA added a five and seven-point line. If a Spurs fan said it, they were probably trying to be nice. Not really something for you to run with.

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    Phoenix is a bigger threat to the Spurs than the Mavs are.

    But their chances of beating the Spurs are outside at best.

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    i remember in one of those playoff games, i think game 3 when they were up by 17pts in the third qaurter and they thought the game was in the bag, untill pop pulled out his bag goin with a small lineup with barry n beno in the backcourt with gino+horry n duncan, just destroyed them and caught up in the 4th quarter to steal the win.

    BENO>nash

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    Phoenix will be the big X factor for the Playoffs. No one knows how good this team will be with everyone back. They are increadibly deep, that's the main thing different from last year. How Diaw's game will translate to the playoffs? Will Marion be stoped by Bowen like last year? I think that they have more talent than anyone in the league, but talent doesn't mean championship.
    The Spurs will face some tough compe ion this year with Dallas, Phoenix and Detroit.
    They are not an X factor, they are a legit condender and I think they will beat SA, if Amare comes back to the level he was at last year.

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    Every game was determined by one shot.
    wasn't game 3 a 15 point blowout?

    Game 1 was a 7 point win by the Spurs.

    Game 2 was a 3 point win, game 5 a 4 or 5 point win.


    Uhh yeah ok.

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    I must have missed when the NBA added a five and seven-point line. If a Spurs fan said it, they were probably trying to be nice. Not really something for you to run with.
    No joke.

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    I think they will beat SA, if Amare comes back to the level he was at last year.
    If he does.

    Once again, people lose shots.

    Bell loses his, Jones loses his, Nash, Thomas, the list goes on.


    But, I do agree.

    If the Spurs and Suns meet up again in the WCF, itll go 6.

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    Beno Udrih Looms!

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    If he does.

    Once again, people lose shots.

    Bell loses his, Jones loses his, Nash, Thomas, the list goes on.

    And who would want slam dunks over long 3-pointers??

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    Close means absolutely nothing.

    There's no such thing as "almost" beat them - and it doesn't mean a team has any more chance the next time. It probably means the team will lose another "close" game again.
    Try a little context next time.

    I never said almost so don't put words in my mouth.

    Close means both teams scored in the 90's and the game wasn't decided until the last minute.
    Not bad for a team that according to Aggie plays absolutely NO defense.


    Both teams have won at home so far. Both in close games.
    That is all I am saying.

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    Not bad for a team that according to Aggie plays absolutely NO defense.
    You obviously admire Charles Barkley so I don't know if I should pick this fight, but I will anyways. The Suns do play absolutely NO DEFNSE! They average 108 points per game and they are 5 games behind the Mavs and Spurs, something is not working, maybe their defense? And who said the Mavs have less of a chance of challenging the Spurs in the playoffs? Is that a ing joke? We have a defensive minded coach who forces it on us to play defense and we still have a damn good offense too. We are much more equipped to beat the Spurs in the playoffs than the Suns with or without Amare.

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    Again, it's funny that all the Suns fans show up thinking the team is relevant after they finally beat what they perceive to be a good team.

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    After watching that game I think it stands as a blue print as to why this is not the Mavs year. There were at least five or six points where the Mavs would go up by ten but then they'd relax, the Suns would get out there and run on them and get back in it. And breaking the Mavs down the stretch isn't the biggest thing since sliced bread (see final minutes of Mavs/Spurs on Thursday). Championship caliber teams know how to finish people off when they have them down like that.

    As for the Suns...I just can't get scared of them. They've got enough shooting that they aren't as prone to the scoring droughts that every team gets, but I don't think they can win a series against a team that dedicates itself to making them play 48 minutes of half court ball. Amare is probably not going to be himself in time for the playoffs, and Thomas will have some rust to shake off too. Realistically I think they need both of those guys healthy and ready to go to have enough physicality to win in the post season, and it's looking like neither will be 100%.

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    Another thing to think about is chemistry - If Amare comes back, he's got to get used to a few new players while trying to figure out whether he trusts his knee.

    What the Suns has done is impressive, and they will get to the WCF. I just don't see the threat.

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    You obviously admire Charles Barkley so I don't know if I should pick this fight, but I will anyways. The Suns do play absolutely NO DEFNSE! They average 108 points per game and they are 5 games behind the Mavs and Spurs, something is not working, maybe their defense? And who said the Mavs have less of a chance of challenging the Spurs in the playoffs? Is that a ing joke? We have a defensive minded coach who forces it on us to play defense and we still have a damn good offense too. We are much more equipped to beat the Spurs in the playoffs than the Suns with or without Amare.

    I think Charles is funny and we share the same first name. Not sure admire is the right word.


    What is really funny is how the Mavericks dismiss the Suns and then can't figure out how they lose to them.

    At least the Spurs have scoreboard from the playoffs.
    The Mavs are a good team but they (and their fans) have no place to talk about the Suns.

    The Suns have had NO inside game all season, any one remotely resembling a center is injured, yet they are only five games back and they lead their division. I don't see any reason to be ashamed about that.

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    Again, it's funny that all the Suns fans show up thinking the team is relevant after they finally beat what they perceive to be a good team.

    It wasn't a Suns fan that started this thread.

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    AS a Spurs fan : Suns with Amaré > Mavs > Suns without Amaré.

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    It wasn't a Suns fan that started this thread.
    True enough. It was one of the village idiots.

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