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beno! beno! beno!.......
He's back.
He's back.
Beno lost the game = bad take
improved his handle?
? but why ohh why? damn i lose 500$ bucks!!!!!!
Thats intelligent.No, fat people does.
Beno had a hand in it, with his poor defense on Cassell.
Beno is a good shooter. Thats about it.
He's to little to be a shooting guard, so he needs to get waived.
And Saint Timothy's defense on Elton and in the paint was faultless?
I think over all Beno is having a very good year and have no doubt that he will continue to improve.
Where was the help defense? Cassell backed Beno into the paint and took the turn around J. Somebody should have come to double him off the paint. It wasn't Beno's fault it was the Spurs' failure to play team D. Parker would have been burned as bad or worse, and has been in the past by Sam, without help D.
Or worse??Parker would have been burned as bad or worse, and has been in the past by Sam, without help D.
Are you gonna tell me Beno is a better defender than Parker?
Mohammed, Horry, and Rasho's help D last night sucked I agree, but Beno letting himself get backed down like that didn't help.
Not without fault, but who is?And Saint Timothy's defense on Elton and in the paint was faultless?
I know you can find fault in EVERYONE sunshine,
but Tim forced some fall aways and some outside jumpers that he made.
Brand is an all star, hes gonna have games like last night where you tip your cap, and move on to the next game.
That simple.
Cassell was 2-for-7 thru the first 32 minutes of the game. Beno comes in and Cassell goes 5-for-6 and it goes from a tie game to the Spurs down 15. And yes, the double-teams came and Cassell hit the open players. Did you see when he hit Radmanovic wide open in the beginning of the fourth? The Spurs sent all types of help Beno's way.
I'm not trying to bash the guy, but to pretend that there was no noticeable drop in effectiveness with Beno on Cassell is silly.
Oh Timvp, your just a hater (rest of the forum)but to pretend that there was no noticeable drop in effectiveness with Beno on Cassell is silly
Yeah a hater who is on record as saying he'd like for Beno to win the backup PG spot. But I'm not going to sugar coat it when Sam Cassell has a hand in each point of a 17-2 run starting the very minute Beno starts guarding him.
The trick is to keep playing him and give him a chance to develop, or not develop. He's shown signs of going either way. It'd be nice to find out for sure before having to just throw him in against playoff teams again. Van Exel is not a lock to give you lots of minutes at the backup point spot through the entire post season.
This one is on Pop.
Dude has an excuse for everything. Listen to the Pop show.
The Spurs Corporate Knowledge is to lose the second game of a back to back and win all the single road games. The Spurs play 4 games in 5 days. He don't give a about the regular season.
Get used to it.
I agree.Yeah a hater who is on record as saying he'd like for Beno to win the backup PG spot
Id love to see him win the spot back.
Like Mohammed won back the center position.
Udrih gives this team instant offense off the bench with his great shooting ability.
But his defense, and his poorn ball handling against the press is the reason hes numero tres on the depth chart.
TMI.
:vomit
lol
POOR
my bad.
timvp - I watched the entire game again and Beno did a good job defending Sam. I saw it correctly the first time.
In the first half, Beno defended Sam and in a 2 minute sequence poked the ball loose from Sam, diving on the floor and forcing a jump ball. The next trip down, he stripped Sam clean and started a fast break the other way. A few plays later, he D'd up on Sam and forced a huried pass out of bounds for another TO. Sam did not score on Beno in the first half. In fact, he scored on Gino who switched because TP got picked off. The one time Sam tried to post Beno up, Tim immediately doubled.
In the 3rd quarter when Sam got going, he isolated on TP and rose up for an short jumper to get his 2nd FG. When Beno came back in, Sam went to post up Beno on two straight trips. Beno played good positional D on Sam but the Spurs did not double and Sam was able to turn away from Beno and score. The Spurs doubled exactly one time the entire time Beno was defending Sam (with Tim) and so Sam hit Radmanovic for a 3 with Horry dropping down. Sam also scored on a baseline handoff and Beno actually was all over Sam but he was able to flip the ball up and convert on a flip-up blind, backwards attempt.
In the 4th quarter, Sam did knock down a mid-post turn and fade shot over Beno who was up on Sam and once again, there was no double team.
The Spurs scorers did nothing to retaliate nor rebound so the Clips made their run that made the difference.
The rest of the time, 1st and 2nd half, Beno defended Livingston and the only time Livingston did anything on Beno was 1 time when he went baseline late in the game and Bruce and Tim weren't able to provide help baseline help.
I'm sorry but Parker did nothing exceptional on defense versus Sam and Beno actually hustled and played well positionally, not to mention outdueling Sam in the 1st half (and prior to Sam dislocating his pinky). Sean Elliott and Stockton both complemented Beno on his play and the fact that even 6'8" Sean Elliott himself got posted up and scored on by Sam I Am.
Go ahead and try to pin this loss on Beno, but watch the entire game again and see what I saw the first time, much less confirmed it the 2nd time I watched. Beno played well and he didn't get a lot of help from his mates. You gotta recognize that the Clippers just outexecuted the Spurs.
The original thread topic still stands. Beno has improved his ballhandling this year.
Tell me how improved it is, next time he fumbles away a ball against a full court press.
I've moved on from last season and so has Beno.
He has??
Bobby Jackson, and others would disagree.
Yes he has. Udrih has exactly 1 turnover in the 2 games he's played against Bobby Jackson and the Grizzlies. Tony Parker has had games of 5 TOs, 5 TOs, and 1 TO (11 Total) against Memphis and Mr. Jackson this year.
This isn't even about a comparison of TP and Beno because Parker has been a key for the Spurs this year, but I see an improvement and your argument hasn't really had any teeth in it as far as 2005-06 goes. Meanwhile Chris Paul and Speedy Claxton got stolen blind by Smush Parker in the last minute of the game to give their game away tonight.
Last edited by Solid D; 03-09-2006 at 03:24 AM.
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