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I don't remember saying the Spurs didn't deserve the 2005 Championship.
I don't know what it is but too bad its not a bestofwhocanwingames3and4athomeby24.0ormorepoints seriesremember the Pistons beating the Spurs by 24.0 ppg in games 3 and 4
I don't remember saying the Spurs didn't deserve the 2005 Championship.
Spurs had the first seed in 2003 too
your stats are wrong
I guess .599 and .710 are not THAT different...
The winning percentage not-withstanding (and the subject of rebuilding for the current era - 258-132 - .661 in last 5 seasons), those look like pretty much the same to me. Neither team has repeated as Champions, both teams have been to the Finals and Conference Finals the same amount of times.
Eastern Conference....ahh the joysThis isn't the Dallas Mavericks - a team you have manhandled in the playoffs in both 2001 and 2003. A team that hasn't been to the Finals in 26 years of existence. This season will go a long way to how these two teams are remembered, but thus far, it looks like a statistical dead heat
I don't know what it is but I took Statistics and Finite Math in collegeI guess .599 and .710 are not THAT different...
and thats what we call a dead heat
Maybe you don't remember the play-by-play action of the deciding final 4th quarter then.
yes yes Darrin youve made your point
counting out that meaningless le in 99
2 les is only 100% more than 1
we get it
the pistons have the advantage BECAUSE of flip...
ROFLROFLROFLROFL
no joke
Yes, the whole thing is wrong because the Dallas Mavericks (60-22) and San Antonio Spurs (60-22) finished tied in 2003, and the site I visited listed them in Alphabetical order, not tie-breakers. Everything I wrote was dead-wrong.
Name me a player on those first two teams that are on the team today? Ben Wallace (2000-01) and Lindsey Hunter (1999-00), and Hunter wasn't here from 2000-2003.
In the last six seasons, after the Pistons pitiful re-building was completed, they are a .660 team. That's why I said "not that different."
would the number of finals series lost be a valuable statistic
i mean if .599 is a dead heat with .710 surely this can provide insight as well
I'm not the one who said "in this decade."
The Spurs have accomplished more than the Pistons since 1992. That's a news flash.
I assume you know the Conference Champions go to the NBA Finals, and the NBA Finals winner is an NBA Champion.
So when it says:
2 Conference Championships, 1 NBA Championship.
2 Conference Championships, 2 NBA Championships.
I assume you can do the math yourself.
That makes no sense! So I'm just supposed to overlook the fact that the Spurs won a Championship over the New Jersey Nets, a team that couldn't matchup with David Robinson and Stephen Jackson, much less Tim Duncan?
I didn't snicker at any of the Spurs accomplishments. I believe that they are the creme of the league. I envy their consistency, because as long as I have been watching basketball (1989-90), they have been at or near the top of the standings. They have had athletes that you can't help but admire - David Robinson, Terry mings, Avery Johnson, and Tim Duncan - while fighting off critics who call them 'soft.' Those amazingly high-character guys didn't stop at the coaches - Larry Brown, Bob Hill, John Lucas, and Gregg Popovich. And the drafting has been phenominal - they were at the forefront of international scouting as a way of gaining an edge over their compe ors.
Whether it was the Utah Jazz or the Los Angeles Lakers, I wanted to see the Blazers, Sonics, Kings, and Spurs beat them. I don't like watching two-men teams. The Jazz, Lakers, and Bulls were the very definition of two-men teams. No matter the style of play, I've always enjoyed watching 5 guys compete, and not just fill one roll on the court.
One of the reasons why I was proud to see the Spurs win last season is that we could stop hearing about the dominant force of the Los Angeles Lakers under the tiring melodrama of Kobe Bryant, Phil Jackson, and Shaquille O'Neal. The Spurs have as many Championships as the Lakers in the same timeframe, Tim Duncan - much more fundamentally sound than Shaq - has just as many Finals MVPs, and one more regular season MVP.
In that same timeframe, I have watched the Pistons win Championships, and I watched them win 20 games. I remember when making the playoffs was a big deal, and winning 50 games was an accomplishment. I am forever thankful that Joe Dumars has returned the expectations of a successful season to mean an NBA Championship, and built the team in a 12-man concept. When this thing began, Dumars said that the Orlando Magic - all the contract shedding and instilling a hard-work mentality, building an attractive organization for free-agents - were the model.
Last summer, he said thier model is the Spurs, a team that consistently looks to win an NBA Championship. The Pistons want to be your team. If you need proof, check out the Palace rafters when they play the Heat on the 22nd. There are new Championship banners in place over the visiting bench. There was very little uniformity between 1989 (smaller print than the 1990 banner), 1990, and 2004 (no primary logo on the banner). They will remind you an awful lot of the Spurs'.
Every move made this season - setting the goal for home-court, creating more offense to overcome the scoring droughts, the personnel changes from Maurice Evans to Dale Davis and Kelvin Cato, even Tony Delk - have been made in preparation of an NBA Finals series with the San Antonio Spurs. Yes, Miami is in the Conference, but when you aim to be the best - like the Pistons did with the Celtics, the Bulls did with the Pistons - when it's that singular mind-set, you aren't preparing to beat all challengers? Beating the Heat isn't a rung on a ladder to getting back in the series with the Spurs?
My point with that post I made is that the Pistons are on the verge, the closest team to the Spurs since the 2002 Lakers flamed out. The only two teams to beat the Lakers in a playoff series are the Spurs and Pistons. The only team to win Championships are the Spurs and Pistons.
I'm not asking you to like the Pistons, simply to respect them.
Darrin,
If you didn't know by now, there are some Spurs fans on this messageboard you just don't reason with. Debate, discuss, rebut, but never reason. Showing respect is just asking for more ridicule.
Don't try to kill them with kindness. Even that made me want to puke.
Yeah dude, just stop. Can_be_Hated is an asshole of the highest degree. he more or less spills out of his mouth every time he speaks. If he isnt pissing on someones parade, he isnt a complete person. Chalk it up to tough internet talk and e-peen polishing.
Literally, just ignore him. Ive yet to see a constructive post. Mookie though, hes cool as beans.
Oh, dear. It's almost as if this were a message board for a team other than the Pistons.
more like dookie, _blowing_ got and el o
His Post Season coaching is horrible and now you realize the prophecy may be true.
I didn't see it before, but I sure as do now...
Flip, you blow...
Flip DOES suck as a playoff coach. But seeing this thread resurrected still may be worth it, just so we can revisit THAT post...you pissed-on fans are going to look so ridiculous again this spring when you have to take the wallace twins' schlongs out of your mouth and get on your knees for the repeat nba champion spurs
you stupid es
Flip is GONE. Regardless of the outcome of this series. Book it.
dude, yall are making cavalier's defense look good, which every decent basketball fan knows is not the case
the refs did make some BS calls, but that play for rip in the corner? wtf?
Also, don't forget who Mike Brown learned the ropes from
Last edited by Cant_Be_Faded; 05-17-2006 at 09:15 PM. Reason: Pop
I'm still puzzled by seeing Rasheed Wallace sitting on the bench for the final three minutes. . . . .
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