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    Favorite episodes? That's a tough one. I'll go season-by-season:

    1 (pretty much all of them sucked, but if forced to choose...):

    Encounter at Farpoint (just for the sake of All Good Things...)
    Where No One Has Gone Before (even though the Traveller pisses me off)

    2 (last season of ty writing staff that went on strike and got replaced by Bragga, Moore, and Pillar...yay!):

    A Matter of Honor (one of the best Klingon episodes)
    The Measure of a Man
    The Royale (featuring Data's best quote of the series: "Baby needs a new pair of shoes.")
    Q Who (first full appearance of Borg)

    3 (the season that ST:TNG started to round into form...analogous to the 97-98 Spurs):

    Deja Q (Q stripped of powers...one of the most introspective episodes)
    Matter of Perspective
    Yesterday's Enterprise (one of the very finest episodes, featuring "Shooter" McGavin of Happy Gilmore fame...with the previous two episodes, the best three-in-a-row)
    Sins of the Father (beginning of the best Worf story-arch)
    Hollow Pursuits (Barclay at his very finest..."Computer, belay that order!")
    Sarek (featuring Patrick Stewart's best scene of the series)
    Best of Both Worlds I (with part II, top 5 episode)

    4 (first truly excellent season, analogous to 98-99 Spurs):

    Best of Both Worlds II (with part I, top 5 episode)
    Family (with Sarek, one of only two episodes where Picard cries)
    Brothers (with previous two episodes, second best three-in-a-row)
    Remember Me (freaky and cool, good Bev Crusher episode, but I still hate the Traveller)
    Data's Day (great off-paradigm episode, similar to Lower Decks)
    The Wounded (great O'Brien episode)
    Clues (along with Remember Me, Cause and Effect and Conundrum one of the best "mystery" episodes)
    Redemption I (another great Worf episode)

    5 (great on paper, choked in the playoffs, analogous to the 00-01 Spurs):

    Redemption II
    Darmok (people either love it or hate it...Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!)
    The Game (great episode about addiction, and Ashley Judd is HOT!)
    Conundrum
    Ethics (great episode about experimental medicine and Hippocratic ethics)
    Cause and Effect (amazing episode, Frazier from Cheers cameo)
    The First Duty (I hate Wesley Crusher, and it's great to see Picard totally annihilate his ass in this one)
    Unification (Spock is the !)
    I, Borg (wow...the ethics of genocide and the genesis of self-awareness!!)
    The Inner Light (top 5 episode)
    Time's Arrow I (amazing in so many ways)

    6 (most satisfying season of the show, analogous to 02-03 championship Spurs team):

    Time's Arrow II
    Relics (great TOS guest star, great sci-fi plot with the Dyson Sphere, great interaction between Scottie, Geordi, and Picard)
    Schisms (so creepy!)
    Chain of Command I and II (effects of torture...Picard: "There are FOUR lights!")
    Ship In A Bottle (Moriarty as super-villain...again!)
    Face of the Enemy (excellent Troi episode)
    Tapestry (best...episode...EVER!)
    The Chase (second...best...episode...EVER!)
    Frame of Mind (like Dostoyevsky's "The Double," an amazing portrayal of the descent into madness)
    Timescape
    Descent I (I love Data!)

    7 (everything just comes to together and takes it all in the clutch, just like the 04-05 Spurs!):

    Descent II
    Gambit I and II
    Phantasms (Data have mad ed up dreams and getting counselled by Freud on the holodeck...how can you go wrong?)
    Attached (about time these two hooked-up, so to speak )
    Force of Nature (warp drive pollution)
    Parallels (best Worf episode)
    The Pegasus (great Riker episode)
    Lower Decks (Riker: "Geordi, you don't have to leave just because I'm unbeatable!")
    Masks (I think I'm the only person in this quadrant who likes this episode, but it's right up there with Fistful of Datas as Brent Spiner's best performance)
    Genesis (devolution of the crew...a great Halloween episode)
    Emergence (great AI episode)
    All Good Things... (I've argued this point with a hundred people, and I remain firmly convinced that this was the greatest final episode of any TV show ever)

    Honorable Mention:
    The Offspring
    First Contact (Riker hooks up with an alien Lilith from Cheers)
    The Nth Degree (Computer: "No such device exists." Brainiac Barclay: "Okay, let me tell you how to build it.")
    Disaster
    True Q (Olivia D'Abo from the Wonder Years is HOT!)
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    Su ions

    Alright, so here's all of that boiled down into a digestible format...
    CONQUESO'S TOP TEN BEST ST:TNG EPISODES OF ALL-TIME:

    10. Relics (6)
    9. Parallels (7)
    8. Cause and Effect (5)
    7. The Lower Decks (7)
    6. Inner Light (5)
    5. Yesterday's Enterprise (3)
    4. Best of Both Worlds I & II (3/4)
    3. All Good Things... (7)
    2. The Chase (6)
    1. Tapestry (6)

    And as an extra-added bonus...
    CONQUESO'S TOP TEN WORST ST:TNG EPISODES OF ALL-TIME:

    10. Cost of Living (I hate Lwaxana, and I hate Alexander, and therefore, I am required to hate this episode that focuses on the two of them together)
    9. The Dauphin (wow...just, wow...)
    8. Q-Pid (you would have expected great things from a Picard-Q reunion set in Sherwood Forest, but what you got was worse than Men In Tights (which incidentally also featured Patrick Stewart in his THIRD period piece about Robin Hood!).)
    7. Reunion (first appearance of Alexander, perhaps the only character on the show more annoying than Wesley Crusher...shame on you Moore and Braga!)
    6. Violations (forgive me for disparaging the plight of rape victims, but seriously, this episode licks Ferengi chode)
    5. Rascals (Picard, Ro and Guinan as children...what the was Pillar thinking?! Directed by Spock's real life son)
    4. Journey's End (the only reason this p.c. drivel about Native Americans isn't number one is because it's Wesley Crusher's last episode...YAY!)
    3. Sub Rosa (written by Braga and directed by Frakes, you would have expected a gem...and instead you got a truly wretched episode)
    2. The Loss (cry me a ing river Troi)
    1. Shades of Grey (they weren't sure whether or not there was going to be a third season...and this piece of was going to be their swan song?!?)

    Yeah, I'm a nerd.

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    I am now really showing my age, but Dark Shadows is the ! I would run home from elementary school, back in the day, to watch it.

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    I really liked TNG in it's first run - after the first two cheesey seasons. Now that I'm really old I appreciate DS9 more as a drama, its flawed characters were in constant conflict that was slow to resolve, if ever. Sure there were fewer "strange new worlds" and there was about one season's worth of throwaway episodes, but it set out to be different from TNG and I thought it succeeded on several levels. I'm still fascinated by the fact it was allowed enough time to finish its run, but the end itself was completely ambiguous -- maybe two characters had a "happily ever after" experience while everyone else was still or newly ed in one way or another. I can only think of Detective Bayliss' fall from grace on Homicide as a more unconventional series finale, but that was kind of expected.

    I really liked Enterprise once I got used to the over the top space boob factor, and I'm sorry I didn't watch Firefly when it was on. BG is pretty interesting, I'll probably catch up on it someday.

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    Yeah, I'm a nerd.


    Yes you are a nerd & you may have just seriously out geeked me!

    I can best sumarize your post into:
    "i love the show and every singel one is my fav except for these select few"



    which is basically the way that I feel too.

    100% agree - Wesley Crusher was the worst thing to ever happen in the history of Star Trek.
    BTW - do you have every season on DVD? If not I highly recomend it.

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    I am now really showing my age, but Dark Shadows is the ! I would run home from elementary school, back in the day, to watch it.
    Is it weird that I had/have a littel school girly crush on Barnabas??? I would totally let him bite me so I could be his vampire bride! I always wanted him & Victoria Winters to hook up (willingly). oh.. and while I'm thinkign about it.. Angelique!

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    ...
    BTW - do you have every season on DVD? If not I highly recomend it.
    Of course I do...but I've also watched every single minute of the special features (which are just so high quality that they truly enrich one's appreciation of every aspect of the series). In fact, I'm so nerdy that I have one of the special edition bonus DVDs that was included with the release of Season 7 that has the Enterprise technical manual, the trailer for The-Star-Trek-Movie-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named, and a 15-minute character profile of Q with extensive John DeLancie interviews. Man, when that season came out, I watched it straight through over the course of 3 days. All the new t.v. on today is so ty that I still pop in an episode two or three times a week. In fact, pretty much the only t.v. I watch these days is ST:TNG, Cheers, and the SAN ANTONIO SPURS CHAMPIONSHIP DVDS!!!

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    Of course I do...but I've also watched every single minute of the special features (which are just so high quality that they truly enrich one's appreciation of every aspect of the series). In fact, I'm so nerdy that I have one of the special edition bonus DVDs that was included with the release of Season 7 that has the Enterprise technical manual, the trailer for The-Star-Trek-Movie-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named, and a 15-minute character profile of Q with extensive John DeLancie interviews. Man, when that season came out, I watched it straight through over the course of 3 days. All the new t.v. on today is so ty that I still pop in an episode two or three times a week. In fact, pretty much the only t.v. I watch these days is ST:TNG, Cheers, and the SAN ANTONIO SPURS CHAMPIONSHIP DVDS!!!

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    thats it , we were seperated at birth.
    did you ever notice in the Enterprise 1701-D Spec Manual (i'm assuming you own one seeing as how i've had mine since 1993) that there is only 1 public bathroom?
    I've alwasy wondered if that was an accident by the designers or a 'joke'.

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    thats it , we were seperated at birth.
    did you ever notice in the Enterprise 1701-D Spec Manual (i'm assuming you own one seeing as how i've had mine since 1993) that there is only 1 public bathroom?
    I've alwasy wondered if that was an accident by the designers or a 'joke'.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Next_Generation

    Quoting, in pertinent part:

    "As a running gag, bathrooms are never shown on Enterprise schematics. The gag was started when toilets were accidentally omitted from the design of the original Enterprise. This joke is referenced in Star Trek: First Contact when Zefram Cochrane asks Geordi La Forge "...don't you people from the 24th century ever pee?" In a special, aired before the final episode, Jonathan Frakes actually answered the question of where one could actually find a bathroom on a diagram of the ship, and pointed to a diagram of the Enterprise seen in Engineering, indicating where it was."

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    I....really like....this thread.

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    I think nanotechnology had advanced to the point where tiny poo-bots took care of all that stuff. Only visitors needed a crappier. I'm sure it was one of those suspension of disbelief things, like seeing aliens' mouths work in English when using the universal translator, or thinking Capt Picard was French and Ensign Sato was Japanese when they were so obviously British and Korean.

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    yes, the alien's mouth workign in english always got to me....


    ... but then i'd be stuck watchign some re ed kung foo movie. And realize I really can't stand hearing english and watching chinese.
    same would most likely go for hearing english and watching Cardassian

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    yes, the alien's mouth workign in english always got to me....


    ... but then i'd be stuck watchign some re ed kung foo movie. And realize I really can't stand hearing english and watching chinese.
    same would most likely go for hearing english and watching Cardassian
    OWG, this might be an inappropriate question, but it's so rare that I meet a female ST fan that I just have to ask:

    Would you hook up with Data?

    We all know that he's programmed in various techniques, but those tripolymer composites probably don't feel as soft and supple as human flesh. Let's assume for the sake of argument that Data's "member" can change size and shape and perform different vibrating functions, but does all of that make up for a complete lack of passion, fervor, and warmth? Furthermore, most women say that they find a sense of humor sexy, and Data certainly lacks that quality.

    I can't really believe I'm saying this, but if I were a woman, Data would be my booty call, a big walking dildo that I could also and moan to if I wanted. Now I know that position disrespects Data's status as a sentient en y or whatever, but ladies do that to real human men all the time, so why couldn't they do it to a fake human man?

    Seeing as how your favorite episode is the Naked Now, I'm sure you've probably thought about this at length (pun kind of intended), so do you have any other insights?

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    Gates McFadden (Dr. Crusher) would have mad bravatar.
    I just saw her starring in some commercial. Something about business or computers or some garbage. Maybe IBM business solutions or something. It was definitely her though.

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    OWG, this might be an inappropriate question, but it's so rare that I meet a female ST fan that I just have to ask:

    Would you hook up with Data?

    We all know that he's programmed in various techniques, but those tripolymer composites probably don't feel as soft and supple as human flesh. Let's assume for the sake of argument that Data's "member" can change size and shape and perform different vibrating functions, but does all of that make up for a complete lack of passion, fervor, and warmth? Furthermore, most women say that they find a sense of humor sexy, and Data certainly lacks that quality.

    I can't really believe I'm saying this, but if I were a woman, Data would be my booty call, a big walking dildo that I could also and moan to if I wanted. Now I know that position disrespects Data's status as a sentient en y or whatever, but ladies do that to real human men all the time, so why couldn't they do it to a fake human man?

    Seeing as how your favorite episode is the Naked Now, I'm sure you've probably thought about this at length (pun kind of intended), so do you have any other insights?
    Well, I'm not a woman, but I have a few insights on this...

    What if he had his emotion chip? With that, he's practically human. Also, Data does have a great sense of humor. Often it's intentional, but still, he's very funny. Certainly funnier than anyone else on the show. Also, the stuff about women liking a sense of humor is complete bull . It's just something they say to not sound shallow. If sense of humor mattered, I wouldn't have the energry or inclination to be typing right now. Yeah, it might matter a little, but it's not in the top ten, trust me.

    But I like the booty call idea. Data would be very discreet. He could keep a secret. You tell him to not tell anybody, and he won't. Still, it'd be kind of embarassing, if there's a sudden red alert or something, if Riker had to ask the computer where Data was, and it said he was in so and so's room.

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    That was some awesome .
    It killedme tho how many ST characters had this deep seeded hate for Capt. Picard after that whole episode... I know he destroyed whole systems and killed 1000's of people.... but come on.
    it wasn;t his fault. He;s cured... and he;s hott as .

    My opinion of changed just a bit when I saw on the internet his birthday tribute to Gene Roddenberry. That was the frutiest I've ever seen, and I saw brokeback mountain...

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    My favorite episode btw is Cause & Effect, but Frasier Crane's crew musta been really really stupid to not catch on for 90 years.

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    Unfortunately it seems Gates McFadden likes to keep hers tucked away.

    The Next Generation was probably my favourite show growing up, and is still one of my favourites. I can't afford the freakin' DVD box sets though so I'm limited to catching the occasional episode in syndication nowadays.

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    OWG, this might be an inappropriate question, but it's so rare that I meet a female ST fan that I just have to ask:

    Would you hook up with Data?

    We all know that he's programmed in various techniques, but those tripolymer composites probably don't feel as soft and supple as human flesh. Let's assume for the sake of argument that Data's "member" can change size and shape and perform different vibrating functions, but does all of that make up for a complete lack of passion, fervor, and warmth? Furthermore, most women say that they find a sense of humor sexy, and Data certainly lacks that quality.

    I can't really believe I'm saying this, but if I were a woman, Data would be my booty call, a big walking dildo that I could also and moan to if I wanted. Now I know that position disrespects Data's status as a sentient en y or whatever, but ladies do that to real human men all the time, so why couldn't they do it to a fake human man?

    Seeing as how your favorite episode is the Naked Now, I'm sure you've probably thought about this at length (pun kind of intended), so do you have any other insights?
    As good as it sounds on paper i know iut would never work out in real life (or in a fantasy sci-fi tv show ;life.. whatever).
    Notice how everyone around Data has intense feeligns for him. Sure - emotionchip-less he wouldn;t have any reciprocal feelings... but even then he does expericance "friendship" ( i belive he said somethign about the regular patterns that his experiances with certain crew members created in his programming that become relied apon & then missed when absent) and eventually (most likely sooner rather than later) he;d pick up on the fact that he was being used. He wouldn;t appreciate it.
    Also I myslef & most other ladies probably wouldn't go thru with just using Data as a booty call.
    It;d have to be more than that or nothign at all...... Data ends up being regulated to what basically corresponds today as a ladies gay best friend.

    With the emotionchip? Yeah, I'd hook up with Data. He's semi good looking, fit, has a great job, funny as , and has alot of side interest like painting & playing the violin.
    whatever his friggin can or cannot do isn't really an issue. besides - all they said was that he was programed in a variety of techniques - not hat he;s freaking robo .



    and this is juts about the strangest ST:TNG question that was ever asked of me or answered.

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    This is like Obiwan's dream thread.

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    This is the geekiest discussion I have ever seen.

    And I went to MIT.

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    This is the geekiest discussion I have ever seen.

    And I went to MIT.

    my mom had a full ride to MIT.
    but she ditched it to follow her dream of being a prima ballerina.
    4 months later she sliced thru her achiles tendon.

    you even say the letters MIT in my house and she'll slap you sideways. I think it;s her biggest regret.

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    This is like Obiwan's dream thread.
    yeah!

    mix in a littel Star Wars, Johnny Depp & margaritas.... I'd just about die & go to heaven.

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    With the emotionchip? Yeah, I'd hook up with Data. He's semi good looking, fit, has a great job, funny as , and has alot of side interest like painting & playing the violin.
    whatever his friggin can or cannot do isn't really an issue. besides - all they said was that he was programed in a variety of techniques - not hat he;s freaking robo .
    Plus stamina would never be an issue.

    There was the one episode where Data kinda had a girlfriend and he did bang Yar...but I am pretty sure everyone else did too.

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    Plus stamina would never be an issue.

    There was the one episode where Data kinda had a girlfriend and he did bang Yar...but I am pretty sure everyone else did too.

    but it's be kinda weird having to stop sex by saying 'uhm, ok, I'm done now'
    I mean - no matter what kinda bull some women like to spin. We can't go all night and we don't want to. Really. We need some sleep & to be able to walk in the morning without crying.

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