Sacramento Bee Columnist Calls For Kings Players To Intentionally Hurt Spurs

[Roscoe and the Body]

I love the irony of it all. Bruce Bowen plays tough defense, but other players are dirty. It's all fun and games when Bowen roughs up his man with his dirty tricks that he very often gets away with because that's just hard-nosed defense, yet when a beat reporter unaffiliated with the opposition team suggests playing that same style against the Spurs - thems fightin' words.

Gino was elbowed as retribution for elbowing Artest in the mouth earlier in the game with his reckless elbows. Innocent Manu can't do any wrong.

Truth be told, you'd love Artest if he was a Spur and detest Ginobili with his football(soccer) inspired flopping and Bowen and his bag of dirty tricks if they played for the opposition.

Beat writers are not doing their job if they don't get people talking. She's probably in her glory with all of your hate mail, because it means she's doing her job.

Catch you kids in the finals.

[pache100]

I love the irony of it all. Bruce Bowen plays tough defense, but other players are dirty. It's all fun and games when Bowen roughs up his man with his dirty tricks that he very often gets away with because that's just hard-nosed defense, yet when a beat reporter unaffiliated with the opposition team suggests playing that same style against the Spurs - thems fightin' words.

Yeah, we love it when RayRay and all the others call Bruce dirty but everybody else is "just playin' d", too. It works both ways. We aren't talking about Bruce here, anyway.

Gino was elbowed as retribution for elbowing Artest in the mouth earlier in the game with his reckless elbows. Innocent Manu can't do any wrong.

There was no call for retribution. It looked to me like Artest lost his balance and started to fall and fell into Ginobili's elbow as he was driving down the court; apparently the referees agree with me, as there was a no-call on that one. The foul Manu was called for on that possession happened under the basket, and it was a good call. I have to hand it to you, though; Artest is a good actor. He flopped real nice, there. Very effective laying on the floor on his stomach like he'd been gut-punched or something; the blood was a nice touch, although it took him a few seconds to get it started...and what *I* saw looked like it was coming from his nose.

Truth be told, you'd love Artest if he was a Spur and detest Ginobili with his football(soccer) inspired flopping and Bowen and his bag of dirty tricks if they played for the opposition.

Truth be told, I don't think I'd ever "like" Artest. I can't think of anything he could do to redeem himself with me. I respect his ability as a basketball player, but I don't think he uses his talents wisely and I detest him as a man. There have been other Spurs I didn't like, he would not be the first. My disliking him has nothing to do with the team he plays for at any given moment.

Beat writers are not doing their job if they don't get people talking. She's probably in her glory with all of your hate mail, because it means she's doing her job.

Whatever. She's still wrong. Inciting to riot is never a good tactic for "getting people talking". There is a right way and a wrong way to do every job. This was wrong, IMO.

Catch you kids in the finals.

Nah...don't think so. We can't both go.

[rayray2k8]

Yeah, we love it when RayRay and all the others call Bruce dirty but everybody else is "just playin' d", too. It works both ways. We aren't talking about Bruce here, anyway.

What the did I do????? ( )
I just had to point that out.
sorry. :p
Anyways, go on.

[smdanss]

Ailene Voisin is a columnist for Sacramento Bee. Her work proves that the NBA decision on Ron Artest is just on time.

[NoMoneyDown]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but many in Sacramento were applauding Stern's 1-year suspension of Artest when he was with Indy. Now, all at once, he's a saint?

[pache100]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but many in Sacramento were applauding Stern's 1-year suspension of Artest when he was with Indy. Now, all at once, he's a saint?

You know, I'm getting about sick and tired of this childish practice of putting words in others' mouths. I have never said Artest is a saint. I not only supported his other suspension, I thought he should have done jail time over that incident in Detroit. I never thought he should have been allowed back in the league to start with. But he was, they did not consult me on that decision.

I'm talking about the game yesterday, the perceived (by Ron) incident earlier in the game where his mouth and Ginobili's elbow came into contact with each other, and the subsequent flagrant retaliatory foul he committed later in the game that the NBA has determined warranted a suspension.

That is all I'm talking about in any discussion of this incident. Nothing else, no previous infractions by or to Artest, have any bearing on the discussion as far as I'm concerned.

[pache100]

What the did I do????? ( )
I just had to point that out.
sorry. :p
Anyways, go on.

Sorry 'bout that rayray2k8, no insult intended.

[NoMoneyDown]

You know, I'm getting about sick and tired of this childish practice of putting words in others' mouths. I have never said Artest is a saint. I not only supported his other suspension, I thought he should have done jail time over that incident in Detroit. I never thought he should have been allowed back in the league to start with. But he was, they did not consult me on that decision.

Who in the said I was responding to you?

[pache100]

Who in the said I was responding to you?

Sorry if you weren't; sure looked that way to me. Maybe you should indicate who you are talking to?

[Solid D]

It looked to me like Artest lost his balance and started to fall and fell into Ginobili's elbow as he was driving down the court; apparently the referees agree with me, as there was a no-call on that one. The foul Manu was called for on that possession happened under the basket, and it was a good call. I have to hand it to you, though; Artest is a good actor. He flopped real nice, there. Very effective laying on the floor on his stomach like he'd been gut-punched or something; the blood was a nice touch, although it took him a few seconds to get it started...and what *I* saw looked like it was coming from his nose.

ESPN showed a different angle on it's replay than did FSN SW. The Fox Sports replay showed a fairly close shot from the baseline with Artest reaching for the ball down and across the front of Manu. As Manu got control of the ball with his right hand and started his move to the baseline, Manu's left elbow swung up and caught Ron in the mouth. It appeared to be inadvertent contact. The Express-News article said Ron had to have 3 s ches, and as swollen as it looked, I don't doubt that.

[greyforest]

Truth be told, you'd love Artest if he was a Spur and detest Ginobili with his football(soccer) inspired flopping and Bowen and his bag of dirty tricks if they played for the opposition.

no, i'd abhor the choice to sign artest to the spurs. he is a goddamn scrub who's reputation is forever tarnished.

gino does acting, yes, we all know that. if you can look past that, though, you'll see that he is a very skilled player as well. the same may hold for ron artest, but as he is someone who single-handedly scarred the NBA's reputation, it is much harder to look past that.

[pache100]

ESPN showed a different angle on it's replay than did FSN SW. The Fox Sports replay showed a fairly close shot from the baseline with Artest reaching for the ball down and across the front of Manu. As Manu got control of the ball with his right hand and started his move to the baseline, Manu's left elbow swung up and caught Ron in the mouth. It appeared to be inadvertent contact. The Express-News article said Ron had to have 3 s ches, and as swollen as it looked, I don't doubt that.

Yeah, I saw his fat lip later. I also saw the still pictures from the ESPN film. It still looked, though, at the time, exactly like Artest slammed his face downward into Manu's elbow. It was like watching a damned cartoon.

[HAHA-That'sYourTeam??]

Yeah, I saw his fat lip later. I also saw the still pictures from the ESPN film. It still looked, though, at the time, exactly like Artest slammed his face downward into Manu's elbow. It was like watching a damned cartoon.

I know. I can't believe people would get all pissy about that one. Loose ball situation with two players going for the ball. I applaud Artests hustle on the play as well as Ginobili's, but if you go for a loose ball you may get inadvertantly popped. It's part of the game and Artest has been playing basketball long enough to know that. If he would have just left that alone (as Bibby, Miller, and the other Kings did) he would be playing in game two just like the rest of the Kings are. This isn't the Spurs', Kings', or NBA's fault. It's Artest's fault. Take responsibility for your actions.

[mikejones99]

Most women should not be covering sports or be on the internet. This series is not over yet. Sac plays much better at home.

[CosmicCowboy]

Most women should not be covering sports or be on the internet. This series is not over yet. Sac plays much better at home.

you are a very brave but stupid man.

[Vashner]

Let's mail him a Zebco kiddy fishing rod combo with a note "From Spurstalk fans".

[Trainwreck2100]

Most women should not be covering sports or be on the internet. This series is not over yet. Sac plays much better at home.

I have a bigger problem with the women they have as sideline reporters, make them hotter and give them less to where.

[mikejones99]

Really, that s y smith has got real big and old fast.

[Vingianx]

desperate words from a queens fan

[ducks]

did anyone get a email back from her?

[ChumpDumper]

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I want BLOOD to be spilt!

I want the next Spur that drives down the lane to GET THEIR HEAD TAKEN OFF!

If this is how we'll be treated getting kicked while we're down... then I'm all for KICKING WHERE IT HURTS!

If we have to go down, I want this message sent:

If you punk us, we will MURDER YOU 10 TIMES OVER! I repeat....

MURDER YOU 10 TIMES OVER !!!!!

**** David Stern and his goon Stu !!!!!
You TOOK 2002 AWAY from us and now they want to ABUSE US, EMBARASS US!

I WISH A BLOODY PURPLE DEATH TO THEM!!!!!!!!!!!

Classy.

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Classy.

I agree. Good Lord, it's a ing basketball game. People like that should move to Europe and become soccer goons.

[LEONARD]

I guess I'm missing something here???

Where did she call for the Kings to "Intentionally Hurt Spurs"???

It looks like she's just calling for the Kings to be somewhat physical with the Spurs?? Since when is putting a forarm on somebody or extending an arm to nick a wrist calling for intentionally hurting people???

[ChumpDumper]

Forearms to midsections?

Elbows to hips?

Yes, you are missing something.

It's ok, metroplex writers will be shovelling the same in a few weeks.

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Forearms to midsections?

Elbows to hips?

Yes, you are missing something.

Absolutely. Anytime someone begins a sentence with, "...no one is suggesting anyone inflict serious harm, but..."

If someone in Dallas writes something like that, AJ will take immediate issue with it publicly.