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    Are you saying that you don't think Duncan does?
    Duncan does, but as far as blocking shots go, Horry gets up about six inches higher than TD. Damn you're a ing idiot.

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    God Obstructed, you wouldn't want the clutchest shooter in basketball history in there? Who can JUMP higher than Duncan?!?!

    David Robinson with an enflicted back could freakin jump higher.

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    Timvp understands the game better than most could ever dream of.

    One thing of note that was touched on but not really talked about was the job Rasho did on defense in the game last night. He absolutely shut down SAR when he was on him. He didn't allow him into the paint and was actually moving his feet well enough to keep him out of the lane as well.

    Unless Nazr comes out on fire, I think Rasho has earned himself some playing time because of these matchups. Nazr hasnt' been able to do a damn thing and Rasho is even outworking him on the glass at the moment. And when Rasho has an edge on the glass, it is debateable whether or not Nazr deserves ANY playing time because Rasho has the edge on defense and its a wash at best on offense.

    The Spurs need rebounding a great deal at the moment. Bonzi is killing them on the offensive glass and that was a HUGE reason why they have been able to compete in the past 2 games. If you keep him off the glass the games aren't even close. I think thats the biggest key to the game. And while Horry may not be a good rebounder in most situations, I think if his assignment was to keep Bonzi off the glass he has the stength and quickness to do it.

    It isn't so much keeping Bonzi from scoring off isolations, its keeping him from getting second chance points.

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    We had a better FG% shooting than the Kings. The biggest difference is that both Artest and Wells grabbed 26 rebounds and the entire Spurs team grabbed 39. We need to be able to box them out and win the rebounding battle. It doesn't matter who guards them if we can get the rebound advantage.

    and we should really really keep those turnovers down.

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    I don't think putting Horry at the three would work. I agree on not going small, but going too big is just as much a mistake. Horry makes clutch shots, but he sucks on defense and boards.

    I would rather see Rasho/Horry, TD, Bowen/Fin, Manu and Tony. Depending on the score. Manu, Fin and Bowen just need to box out.

    People act like the Spurs are down on this series. They'll win without having to put gimick lineups out there.

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    Horry got some sweet blocks last season when Duncan was out with the ankle injury. To say Horry is not a good shot blocker is just ing re ed. If he was in the game he would've mosdef blocked that . Or at least taken a bite out of Martin's elbow on his way to the hoop, altering the shot.

    And yeah, force Artest to take jumpers. I play street ball all the time and fractured a finger once. I couldn't hit anything but layups.

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    Horry makes clutch shots, but he sucks on defense and boards.
    Hopefully this is a joke. Horry averaged the third most rebounds per minute on this team in the regular season and is a very good post defender. Other than a healthy Tim, nobody guards the block better. He's also a masterful help defender and even an average perimeter defender. All around, I'd rank him just behind Duncan and Bowen as the best defender on the team.

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    i dont agree about putting bigs on bonzi and Artest. when horry or duncan were guarding Artest he was just going right by them and getting three point plays. they are to strong for finley,bowen and manu and to quick for rasho nazr horry and duncan.

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    Put bigs on them and play off of them. Make Artest and Wells beat you with jumpers.

    They can't.

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    i dont agree about putting bigs on bonzi and Artest. when horry or duncan were guarding Artest he was just going right by them and getting three point plays. they are to strong for finley,bowen and manu and to quick for rasho nazr horry and duncan.
    So who should guard them, the point guards?

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    No joke he use to be, but not anymore. He always getting beat when someone posts him up. He still an ok weak side defender, but he's a s of himself on defense.

    Per 48 min he's ranked 6. Fabio and Marks pull more rebs per 48 than Horry

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    No joke he use to be, but not anymore. He always getting beat when someone posts him up. He still an ok weak side defender, but he's a s of himself on defense.

    Per 48 min he's ranked 6. Fabio and Marks pull more rebs per 48 than Horry

    You can't count Fabio and Marks for anything. They don't play enough minutes to make per 48 mean anything.

    When did Horry become a s of himself anyway?
    He just started playing last week or so. He doesn't play hard during the regular season.

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    Duncan
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    Horry

    Horry is third out of the NBA players

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    Yeah its funny, he's not a good rebounder. We all know Rasho sucks and they both avg the same per 48. Is that better?

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    No joke he use to be, but not anymore.
    Since when? Last playoffs? This season?

    Enlighten me.

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    Put bigs on them and play off of them. Make Artest and Wells beat you with jumpers.

    They can't.
    They can. But it's a matter how much can they be consistent on them. (plus you've got Bibby.)

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    Yeah its funny, he's not a good rebounder. We all know Rasho sucks and they both avg the same per 48. Is that better?
    Rasho is a center. Horry is a power forward. If Horry averages the same, that's a good clip.

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    Horry averaged 5 and half boards per game last post season. I don't understand how that's a bad rebounder.

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    just watch, he's not what he use to be. Show me a good defense game this playoffs from Horry, and we'll wait till the playoffs finish.

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    just watch, he's not what he use to be. Show me a good defense game this playoffs from Horry, and we'll wait till the playoffs finish.
    So basically you are saying that he lost it some time between last postseason and this postseason, right?

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    Look I agree he should be out there more, just not at the three. He's just savy and makes plays when it counts, but to say he can guard 3's is funny.

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    Look I agree he should be out there more, just not at the three. He's just savy and makes plays when it counts, but to say he can guard 3's is funny.
    We aren't saying he can guard all 3's. We are saying he can guard Bonzi Wells better than anyone else on the team can (or has been).

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    They can. But it's a matter how much can they be consistent on them. (plus you've got Bibby.)
    Artest hasn't been able to shoot since he hurt his thumb against the Suns near the end of the season. For Spurs fans who don't notice, he's sporting a huge brace on his shooting thumb.

    He's shooting 33% from the field, less than 30% from beyond the arc and 45% from the free-throw line since hurting his thumb. Let him shoot and make him handle the ball. The only way he's effective right now is driving in on smaller defenders.

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    So basically you are saying that he lost it some time between last postseason and this postseason, right?

    I guess, but even last playoffs I can't remember a strong defense performance from him. Show me one. When we think of Horry, all you think of is his clutch shot(s). He's not in there for his defense.

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    So who should guard them, the point guards?
    no the point is when they are on their game nobody can guard them. just like nobody can guard duncan. you can make all the adjustments in the world but if you cant stop them you cant stop them. simple as that.

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