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    Well if those are irrelevant, than the Mavericks coming back from 0-2 is just as worthless.

    So your arguement, is how you say? Moot.

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    That's not fair -- that was an entirely different Mavs team.

    It's also unfair to say that the pressure of avoiding embarassment is somehow not comparable to the pressure of trying to win championships.

    EXACTLY! I'd say that pressure is fairly comparable. Then again I've only competed for one championship and it had nothing do with the NBA, but my team was clearly almost embarassed early on, and there was quite a bit of pressure during that game.

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    That's not fair -- that was an entirely different Mavs team.

    It's also unfair to say that the pressure of avoiding embarassment is somehow not comparable to the pressure of trying to win championships.
    Well the original statement was that the Dallas Mavericks have never faced any real playoff pressure ever, so yeah I think it applies. It's a comment on the franchise, not a knock on this year's team.

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    WHAT THE ?????

    When did I say the Spurs can't handle pressure??? The only thing I ever said is I laugh at someone who has said that Dallas can't handle pressure!!!!!!!

    Being down 0-2 and coming back and winning in 7 is a pretty good way to handle pressure. That's not to say they have handled more or less pressure than the Spurs, but to say they have'nt had to deal with pressure situations is ridiculous.
    Is that a lot of pressure? I don't see it either way you cut it you have another game coming. The Mavs had to go on the road down 2, in the 1st round. Last second shots are a lot less pressure than being down in a series, it's short term, you either make the shot or you don't. Being down in a series weighs on you far more than a being down 2 points with a few seconds left regardless of the game.

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    WRONG!

    The Furthest Dallas has been is game 7 of the WCF in 87' agains the Lakers. How relevant is that? It's not, not at all kinda like what this whole pressure converstation is anyway.
    And, at last, we've come full circle.

    The point of Buck's column was to say that it's not always a disadvantage to be pressed in an early series. He's saying that if the Spurs manage to advance -- which is not a foregone conclusion -- that the pressure they will have dealt with in getting that done will give them something else to rely upon in subsequent series because this year's Spurs will have been significantly tested in a way that this year's Mavericks have not.

    It's Buck's opinion that such tests are useful to teams that win les; he may be proven wrong. But the point he's trying to make is valid -- the 2005-06 Dallas Mavericks have yet to be tested in the same fashion that the 2005-06 San Antonio Spurs or the 2005-06 Sacramento Kings have.

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    WHAT THE ?????

    When did I say the Spurs can't handle pressure??? The only thing I ever said is I laugh at someone who has said that Dallas can't handle pressure!!!!!!!

    Being down 0-2 and coming back and winning in 7 is a pretty good way to handle pressure. That's not to say they have handled more or less pressure than the Spurs, but to say they have'nt had to deal with pressure situations is ridiculous.
    I think he's starting lose his cool, gents.

    That was a good Harvey article and a point that's worth thinking about. Now, the Spurs, who have all the battle-tested playoff experience and hardware in the world, get a tough series for a little tune-up. Now, we have to play the vaunted playoff juggernaut that is the Mavericks, and they *GASP* have a few extra days of rest to prepare to play us at home, where we lost 7 times?!?!?! We might as well just hand the WC championship to the mavs.

    Look, rest would be great, but if we can't have it, at least we can look forward to the next series with some optimism based on Buck's legitimate argument.

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    FUNNY !!!

    This exact team was down 0-2 last year in the 1st round yet came back and won it in 7. No pressure, that's laughable.........

    Yet, as in 4-0 sweep this year. can you not read English?

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    Being down 2-0 to the Houston Rockets who had zero playoff experience and zero championships in their players' experience, is hardly anything to brag about. Houston choked ona regular basis the last few yrs.

    Dallas let Steve Nash waltz up the court and hit the game tieing 3 in game 7 of the playoffs last year with 5 secs left, when all they had to do was stop the ball, or foul to win the game...yeah, they handle pressure well.


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    I think that the pressure of avoiding embarassment is certainly germaine here.
    as in jermaine stewart, author of this remarkabkle tune?

    Not a word, from your lips
    You just took for granted that I want to skinny dip.
    A quick hit, that's your game.
    But I'm not a piece of meat, still you like my brain.
    Night is young, so are we.
    Let's get to know each other better, slow & easily.
    Take my hand, let's hit the floor.
    Shake our bodies to the music.
    Maybe then you'll score.

    [Chorus:]
    So come on baby, won't you show some class
    Why you want to move so fast.
    We don't have to take our clothes off
    To have a good time
    Oh no
    We could dance & party all night
    And drink some cherry wine
    Uh huh
    We don't have to take our clothes off
    To have a good time
    Oh no
    We could dance & party all night (all night)
    And drink some cherry wine
    Uh huh
    Na na na na na na na...

    Just slow down if you want me
    A man wants to be approached cool & romantically
    I've got needs
    Just like you
    If the conversation's good
    Vibrations through & through

    So come on baby, won't you show some class
    Why you want to move so fast
    We don't have to take outr clothes off
    To have a good time
    Oh no
    We could dance & party all night (all night)
    And drink some cherry wine
    Uh huh
    Na na na na na na...
    {repeat until fade}

    (it's germane, but you were the first to point out my wonderful pacific islander atlantic ocean blunder yesterday)

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    Being down 2-0 to the Houston Rockets who had zero playoff experience and zero championships in their players' experience, is hardly anything to brag about. Houston choked ona regular basis the last few yrs.

    Dallas let Steve Nash waltz up the court and hit the game winning 3 in the playoffs last year with no time left, when all they had to do was stop the ball to win the game...yeah, they handle pressure well.

    tracy mcgrady may well have forever jinxed himself with the great to be in the 2nd round comment in orlando... mavs didn't have too much to worry about besides dirk crawling in a hole and hiding.

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    Being down 2-0 to the Houston Rockets who had zero playoff experience and zero championships in their players' experience, is hardly anything to brag about. Houston choked ona regular basis the last few yrs.

    Dallas let Steve Nash waltz up the court and hit the game tieing 3 in game 7 of the playoffs last year with 5 secs left, when all they had to do was stop the ball, or foul to win the game...yeah, they handle pressure well.

    That was game 6........

    I just wish you guys would hurry up and get out of the 1st round so all this bull speculation would stop.

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    Dude looked like a Gremlin.

    Dayum, I didn't know he died in 97.

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    This will toughen up the Spurs IF they beat the Kings. The series ain't over yet.

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    That was game 6........

    I just wish you guys would hurry up and get out of the 1st round so all this bull speculation would stop.
    Sorry, I knew it was the series clincher, and it really pissed me off, because I wanted Dallas to win that game.

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    Forget who has had more pressure to deal with in the past. Plain and Simple, Dallas is a bit banged up and really needs the xtra rest. In the 2nd round last yr, PHX really gave it to a fatigue and lethargic Dallas team that went to war with Houston in 7 games. You guys can't discredit what the Mavs have done in the 1st round...they swept a team that would have beaten Denver, maybe the Clippers and pretty much the bottom 5 or 6 of the Eastern Conference. Sure the Spurs are being battle tested early, and maybe it will be beneficial to them. But I do know one thing, an early series victory is beneficial to the Mavs.
    oh yeah...didn't u guys win the Championship in 99' after sweeping the 1st series. Go figure?

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    oh yeah...didn't u guys win the Championship in 99' after sweeping the 1st series. Go figure?
    Actually, in 1999, the Spurs vanquished the T'Wolves 3-1.

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    Forget who has had more pressure to deal with in the past. Plain and Simple, Dallas is a bit banged up and really needs the xtra rest. In the 2nd round last yr, PHX really gave it to a fatigue and lethargic Dallas team that went to war with Houston in 7 games. You guys can't discredit what the Mavs have done in the 1st round...they swept a team that would have beaten Denver, maybe the Clippers and pretty much the bottom 5 or 6 of the Eastern Conference. Sure the Spurs are being battle tested early, and maybe it will be beneficial to them. But I do know one thing, an early series victory is beneficial to the Mavs.
    Assuming that the Spurs win this series -- still a leap, as far as I'm concerned -- I think that most Spurs fans would have been satisfied to have the result switched; to have the Spurs sitting at home waiting for the Mavs. Just as the Mavs have been banged up, so too have the Spurs. And, generally, rest is a great playoff equalizer.

    With that said, whoever wins this series will undoubtedly have had to dig deep and find some strength that needed to rear its head in order to accomplish that. In finding that strength, the winner of the series will have a confidence and belief that a week's rest does not often instill. It's ultimately a silver lining in a dark cloud, but the silver lining has made the difference for many teams in the past.

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    Sacto would pound the Mavs in a seven game series.

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    Buck Harvey is a waste of newspaper.

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    Sacto would pound the Mavs in a seven game series.
    PUH LEEEZ, ok lose and lets find out!

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    Mavs definition of pressure = down 0-2 in the first round

    Spurs definition of pressure = down 2 with 5.8 sec left in Game 5 of the Finals
    Beautiful.

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    Buck Harvey is a waste of newspaper.

    Sour grapes forum


    This is a very good article.

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    WRONG!

    The Furthest Dallas has been is game 7 of the WCF in 87' agains the Lakers. How relevant is that? It's not, not at all kinda like what this whole pressure converstation is anyway.
    And the Mavs still lost the series and couldn't handle the pressure.
    If memory serves didn't Rolondo Blackman mismanage the game clock down the stretch and cost them a trip to finals?

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    The fact is the Grizzlies had a better record the last two months of the season and that's with Artest. If Dallas played the Kings they would win in five. Could it be the real reason that your struggling with the Kings is that your team lacks the strength and athleticism to guard either Artest and Wells effectively and that you have no one to back up Bowens or Horry's defensive lapses when they penetrate the lane.

    The reality is -past history aside- your team is old and your best player is hobbled. Your offensive revolves around guard penetration and old men making three pointers. I don't think you have the talent to win this year. I'm not sure you have the talent to win this round. Home court is irrelevent. I think you go down this series or in six next round. I look forward to your demise if you last that long .

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    In part, I find myself hoping the Spurs will win this series just so that I can get the benefit of two weeks of basketball knowledge offered up by the know-it-alls who've jumped on the Mavericks bandwagon.

    That would be just swell.

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