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Hey dumb : you're in a Spurs forum. When we say "today's game" assume we're NOT talking Pistons ball.
Would that have been LeBron? So... Tayshaun Prince is DPOY? that's awesome.
Hey dumb : you're in a Spurs forum. When we say "today's game" assume we're NOT talking Pistons ball.
His entire career? By far, the dumbest take I've read on here in a long time.
Congrats!
Just for s and giggles someone should make a list.
In one column put the players Ben Wallace has had to guard this season. In another column put the players Bruce has had to guard. In both columns put the players season averages vs. their averages versus Ben and Bruce.
In my opinion this is a travesty. Bruce has to guard the best scorers in the league game in and game out and is incredibely effective. Ben Wallace has to guard ONE dominate post player with any regularity, Shaq, and gets owned msot of the time in doing it. , didnt Dwight Howard have better numbers than Wallace in defensive categories (blocks, rebounds) this season? Oh and for the love of god ESPN and TNT noone gives two left nuts about how many steals he gets. Let alone having to hear about it 6 times in one game. The Pistons are a fantastic defensive team but Bruce is a far superior individual defender.
So true.
he still got the big ole snub. Bruce is the most versatile defender in the league by a wide margin and generally succeeds at any assignment given to him.
While you can argue the effectiveness of some of the other great defenders, you cannot argue their versatility when put up against Bruce.
I would have liked to see Bowen win it but Big Ben is never a bad choice. Congrats.
Um, no. We're talking DPOY, not Pistons ball. Anyway, just a little sarcastic humour from me. You seem sensitive, so I apologize.
wow bowen will never win it.ARTEST is a better defender anyway. he will win it next year trust me. ben wallace deserved it.didnt he have like 5 or 6 blocks today?
4wow bowen will never win it.
damn he never allows layups does he? and prince should have been a ing all star. he plays awesome in the playoffs.
This thread le is misleading.
I thought the best Piston defender, Rasheed Wallace, had finally got some recognition.
1. I thought Bruce would get the DPOY award this year and is very deserving. That doesn't mean that I think Ben Wallace DOES NOT deserve it. I thought voters would look to vote for someone else since Ben has won it three times already.
2. If your argument is that Ben Wallace did not have as good a season as last year or other previous years he's won the DPOY, it's a poor argument. The DPOY award is based on the current regular season, not based in comparison to a player's previous seasons. Ben is judged against the rest of the NBA in 2005-06, not against himself and the stats he's put up in other years. By the way, Ben Wallace was top ten in the league in rebounds, blocks, and steals. Perhaps his numbers are down from previous years, but compared to the rest of the league THIS SEASON, he's still one of the best defenders in the game. You have to compare him to himself to say he's not that good. That's just not how regular season awards are voted, nor should it be.
3. Ben has guarded Dirk Nowitzki for long stretches and has done extremely well against him. Ben frequently switches on smaller guards and does reasonably well. But saying Bruce can guard Bibby and ask if Ben could do that is just outrageous. Could Bruce Bowen guard Shaquille O'Neal or Yao Ming? Well Ben can. What's the point in asking if Ben can guard both Dirk and Bibby. Regardless, I don't think Ben would do a bad job at all on Bibby. TODAY, Ben guarded LeBron James for long stretches in the second quarter and except for one 3-pointer, LeBron was neutralized by Ben Wallace.
Something to think about ...
You had me right up until this. No ing way Ben doesn't get crossed over and spun around and made to look like a fool.Regardless, I don't think Ben would do a bad job at all on Bibby.
Ben Wallace is awesome. While I was rooting for Bruce, at least Ben is deserving of the award, unlike certain MVPs.
Ron Artest will never win another individual award. He's toxicity to the NBA, incarnate.wow bowen will never win it.
Keep that. You'll need it in a matter of weeks, trick ass.
Yea, we'll need them to wipe up all the Spurs tears in the visitors locker room at the Palace.
So we got robbed again, but who is honestly even surprised?
I've said it before: I'll be surprised if Bowen came in second.
I guess you didn't check out Detroit's last game against Dirk when Ben shut him down in crunch time.
It's an insult to Bowen, because Bowen is an amazingly hard worker, and takes pride in his specialist status...At least Ben has a similar background in his game, so it's not bad that he got it, and not someone like Artest..
Oh well, it doesn't validate Bowen's talents anyway, the people who voted are easily swayed by "reputation" and Bowen's rep as dirty is sketchy in their eyes.
Anyone know if Pop threw in a comment about Bowen being jipped again, in support of his guy?
I doubt anyone in the Spurs organization thinks that Ben is somehow underserving of the award.
screw the stupid nba....Bruce does his thing night in and night out and it is so rare to find a guy who works as hard and takes pride in going up against the best perimeter players in the world as Bruce Bowen. The guy should be rewarded for his awesome defense and work ethic.
Its so rare to have a player like Bowen. when he's gone its going to be impossible to replace him and the spurs won't be same after that. ben wallace is a great defensive player and deserves a lot of credit for his work as well but defensive big men that block shots and rebound and play good all around D are more common than guys like bruce who can gaurd 4 positions on the floor. I wish he would have won it. hopefully this just motivates him more and he takes it out on dirk for the rest of the series.
Your original post might be right, but the above reads pretty convincingly too.
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