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    This whole claim about trying to force Nazr's value down is totally BS. Why would some guy want to re-sign cheap for a team that intentionally sat him to reduce his price? It would be the surest way for him to want to leave.

    Watch the games and access the line-ups and then get back with us on just exactly where you want to insert him into the line-up.

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    Hopefully Nazr will have his contributions before the Spurs quit playing this spring...He always seems to come back from being benched with energy and motivation...Pop may just be waiting to pick his spot...

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    Knowing Nazr, he won't "jump" ship. He will instead, "pump fake seven times and shuffle" ship.

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    Knowing Nazr, he won't "jump" ship. He will instead, "pump fake seven times and shuffle" ship.
    it would be funny if it wasnt so true ...
    do i see a Nazr - Chandler trade coming? definately might want to get a better Center then Nazr... one thats good a rebounding and can actuelly finish

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    The problem with virtually all of the available centers in this league is inconsistency, which we got in spades.

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    it would be funny if it wasnt so true ...
    do i see a Nazr - Chandler trade coming? definately might want to get a better Center then Nazr... one thats good a rebounding and can actuelly finish
    Bulls won't give ANYONE for Moha they can get him easily to sign for about MLE.

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    Bulls won't give ANYONE for Moha they can get him easily to sign for about MLE.
    nazr rejected 6.5 mill/year from the spurs this summer, i have a feeling he won't settle for MLE moneys.

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    nazr rejected 6.5 mill/year from the spurs this summer, i have a feeling he won't settle for MLE moneys.
    He rejected that in last summer,when he hoped he would start and receive at least 20-25 playing time.
    I'm sure he won't get more money from any team in the leauge than MLE,and in Chicago he could be a starter with plenty of playing time as well.

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    He rejected that in last summer,when he hoped he would start and receive at least 20-25 playing time.
    I'm sure he won't get more money from any team in the leauge than MLE,and in Chicago he could be a starter with plenty of playing time as well.
    there is always a team willing to overpay an underachieving center.

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    there is always a team willing to overpay an underachieving center.
    He's got the one thing you can't teach. Teams will always gamble on that. Always.

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    I'm more bothered by the thought of Robert Horry having to play 30 minutes per for the rest of the second season.

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    I'm more bothered by the thought of Robert Horry having to play 30 minutes per for the rest of the second season.
    I'm on record saying I don't think he can make it.

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    I'm on record saying I don't think he can make it.
    I don't either, and that means the Spurs will need either Nazr or Rasho to step up.

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    Bulls won't give ANYONE for Moha they can get him easily to sign for about MLE.
    Bulls will have to s out $7 at least for his services. After Nene there is Nazr and Joel Przbylla. If a bidding battle starts, they may need to sign and trade for him to get SA participation.

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    I predict there will be a sign and trade.

    Spurs will get either a big man, or SF in return.

    Hopefully a Robert Swift, Johan Petro, or Luol Deng

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    I'm more bothered by the thought of Robert Horry having to play 30 minutes per for the rest of the second season.
    Between the smallball that most of you loathe, and 10-15 from Rasho, he should only have to average about 25. He played 32 because the game was tight.

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    WTF? Nazr is going to come through in this series. STFU already.

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    Why are people so quick to pencil in Scola as a ing starter when he hasn't even played a game yet, and likely never will, for this franchise?

    Stupid.

    If we are going to beat Detroit we are going to need Nazr on the front lines, he's our only big outside of Horry with a mean streak. I hate this infatuation with small ball that Pop suddenly has.

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    You seriously need to learn about this new invention. It's called basketball!

    WTF are you talking about? top 10 C in the league? Have you ever seen him play?
    1. Shaquille O'Neal MIA
    2. Yao Ming HOU
    3. Brad Miller SAC
    4. Ben Wallace DET
    5. Jamaal Magloire NO/OKC
    6. Tyson Chandler CHI
    7. Marcus Camby DEN
    8. Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLE
    9. Erick Dampier DAL
    10. Kurt Thomas PHX
    11. Michael Olowokandi MIN
    12. Samuel Dalembert PHI
    13. Mehmet Okur UTH
    14. Joel Przybilla POR
    15. Chris Kaman LAC
    16. Andrew Bogut MIL

    Here's 16 centers I grabbed of a list somewhere. Pick 10 that are definitively better than Nazr. It's closer than you might think.

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    there is always a team willing to overpay an underachieving center.
    The New York Knicks are one of them (they overpay underachievers, period; regardless of their position)

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    jumping ship, he'd probably drown, swimming being yet another fundamental beyond his grasp
    To flog this metaphor to death, if he did jump ship and another team threw him a life saver, he'd bobble the pass and then get stuffed by a wave trying to pump fake.

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    dont the bulls have a 1st round pick from the knicks...sign and trade for that and deng

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    1. Shaquille O'Neal MIA
    2. Yao Ming HOU
    3. Brad Miller SAC
    4. Ben Wallace DET
    5. Jamaal Magloire NO/OKC
    6. Tyson Chandler CHI
    7. Marcus Camby DEN
    8. Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLE
    9. Erick Dampier DAL
    10. Kurt Thomas PHX
    11. Michael Olowokandi MIN
    12. Samuel Dalembert PHI
    13. Mehmet Okur UTH
    14. Joel Przybilla POR
    15. Chris Kaman LAC
    16. Andrew Bogut MIL

    Here's 16 centers I grabbed of a list somewhere. Pick 10 that are definitively better than Nazr. It's closer than you might think.
    Of course you are right and it is closer than I am comfortable with. But I am currently so pissed off with him that for me he's at the bottom of any C list in the NBA right now.

    I don't hate the guy and I don't mind his mistakes (well not too much). But it drives me crazy that he does not change, that he keeps repeating the same stupid stuff all the time and that he's apparently incapable of remembering a defensive schem for more that 30 seconds is why I'm really pissed at him.

    I know he had a couple of decent games, and I hoped they would re-emerge. But after seeing him playing lately I have a problem comprehending where did those good games came from, when it should be the other way aroound.

    (Soory for the late answer - time zones suck )

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    dont the bulls have a 1st round pick from the knicks...sign and trade for that and deng

    Why not Deng+Hiinrich+Noci for Moha?

    Moha will quit for nothing I'm sure.

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    People should realize that Duncan defend on the opposite center and is defended by the opposite center : Duncan is more a center than a PF.

    There are more and more PF in nba that are mobile and shoot 3's and are bad matchup for Duncan, it's time to slide Duncan at the C spot.

    IMHO, The best solution for our bigmen next year is :
    - Duncan who plays mainly at the C spot, he can start at PF if he wants and play with a center for few minutes at the start of the game.
    - Horry, no need to explain.
    - A true quality PF, either Scola (last news from Spain is that he will soon have an answer concerning his future) or via trade/FA. Gettting a quality PF via trade/FA is way easier than getting a quality center.
    - A real center that can defend on the few big centers left in the league like Shaq and Yao. Rasho is a way better solution than Nazr for that job but a cheaper player is a better answer.
    - A 5th big for garbage time/foultroubles : Oberto or Javtokas. I rather have Javtokas who has more upside and is a better defender.

    Duncan/Scola/Horry/Rasho/Javtokas isn't a bad bigmen rotation and isn't too expensive.

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