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send him to the Bulls! for Hinrich
It'd be awesome to see manu/chapu combination
I have faith in him.
BUT, if he finishes out this postseason like he has? I would put him on the block.
You would get an all SG in return, and who knows what else in a package with Beno and Mohammed.
IF, he finishes out the playoffs like he has been playing.
I don't know what his problem is, but he needs to snap the out of it.
send him to the Bulls! for Hinrich
It'd be awesome to see manu/chapu combination
It's a pointless discussion unless you're specific about who, exactly, you expect in return. "Put him on the block" is just shock value bull .
If Manu had a bad enough Postseason to justify the Spurs parading his name around as trade bait, his value is probably too low at that point to expect a fair return anyway.
He's obviously hurt Kori. He can't jump. He has no lift at all. He's even wearing a wrap on his left calf. He wouldn't be wearing it if he wasn't hurt. Why don't you find out what's really up with him?
The Church of Manu is keeping vigil until our patron saint returns to form.
Believe.
put Manu in acting. he is obviously learning better english and "I did what?!" faces.
well actually put him in anger management before anything....
the man freaks out when one whistle is blown against him
so the church of manu thinks it is plain as day he is hurt
because he is not producing
everyone knows tp is hurt
HURT?
how long have they been hurt exactly? and if more than one month.....WHY WERE THEY PLAYING AT THAT TIME IN THE SEASON????
TP is hurt, Manu is not hurt, he has a mental block. That said, I think it's ridiculous to talk about trading him, he's a great player when's he on. Dirk flustered all last year in the playoffs and it was disappointing to watch but he seems to have gotten over that this year. Really good players will find a way to get over the mental block and I seriously think Manu will get over it...hopefully right after this series!
Tony just got hurt in Game Six against the Kings (and then hit again in Game 1). He'll be fine by next game.
well Pop did say that Tony and Manu were both at practice rehabbing today
What about Ginobili's fall yesterday? I cringed when I saw that because it looked painful. I have fallen in nearly the same manner on concrete and was alright until the next day. Is he good to go? I prefer all players on deck for gametime.
I think Manu was just tired from a tough series in which he had to guard Ron Artest. Artest is 275 pounds of muscle. Manu is 175 pounds of heart. Of course he's going to be worn out and banged up.
Now hopefully he can get rested in this break and come out like the real Manu in games 3.
He's getting treatment today. He was already playing really poorly before that. So the tailbone wasn't his only problem yesterday. I don't know if he's hurting, tired, in a funk, or all of the above, but I want to see him doing better very soon.
I think it's both exhaustion and mental. Maybe he should bring someone from Argentina the way Dirk brings in Holger for the playoffs and to help him when he has mental blocks that affect his performance.
Last playoffs, Manu didn't have too many tough matchups. First round he had whatever scrub guard they put next to Carmelo. In the second round he had Damien Wilkins and Antonio Daniels after Rashard went down. In the WCF he didn't even have to guard anyone ... he just had to stand there and make sure no one hit threes on him. In the Finals he had Tayshaun, who was pretty tough but not as tough as Artest or whoever he has to guard this series.
That is another main reason why his offensive numbers are down. Going from guarding Artest to Devin Harris would wear out anyone on earth outside of Bruce Bowen.
I generally hate to see the long playoff layoffs due to the TV contracts, but this time it's just what the Dr ordered.
ok so maybe he is hurt
first time that I know of that pop said it or the spurs
probably because he fell on his back yesterday, that doesn't mean he was hurt prior to that fall...i'm talking about manu, not parker
Manu's been banged up all season long. That fall certainly didn't help. Hopefully the time off will.
Manu did get hurt in the Sac series I read it on a post game wrap up of game 6 on Friday. It mentioned Tony and Manu in the locker room nursing their wounds and Manu having a less serious bruise to his leg. He's been banged up all year. So no doubt he's been playing hurt. He also admitted this post SA-Dallas game 2 that he's also hurt, on the spurs nba page on the audio quotes.
Anyway , we know he's hampered with injury, but I think it's mental. I think Pop's emphasis that Manu is "Key" to their playoff success (with utter truth in that statement) is playing a mental game with Manu. Also living up to his past season success is on his mind. He mentioned coming into the playoff's that he can't guarantee playing just as good as last year, but will do his part in playing his role, or match it. With Parker sharing the load more and Tim playing a different role, Manu seems to have an ambiguous approach now. And I think that's what makes him even more inconsistent than ever.
I think Pop either needs to unleash him and go back to last year's approach with him as second option regardless of injury, and Manu needs to stop worrying about conserving himself so much for the "Later" postseason and play each game as if it were the last. None of this saving himself bull , because we can't blink anymore after the first round. You could tell in game 1, game 2, instead of finishing he made sure he didn't risk putting himself in an injury position. The falls he takes each time get in his head. It's all mental.
Last year he played banged up through the postseason even into the Finals after game 3,4, he returned to form to win it in games 5,6,7. He needs to shake the expectations and just go play. Ever since his consecutive injury and all the talks about him being a 5-year player have probably caught up with him mentally. There's no denying this. Manu's game is only inhibited by what he sees best for the team and he's too willing to step back and score for one quarter now and that's taken him out of rhythm. Last year him as the leader of offense kind of fed his confidence and his style. It worked for the argentinean team, and in the 2005 play off run. Pop needs to make Manu the leader,co-leader whatever and not a crappy roleplayer which is what he's been as the third option. If his role is too small he's ineffective.
Manu will be fine. He'll pick it back up. I don't know that, but I expect it.
intersting post
pop needs to say the big three need to step up
not just manu
manu needs a long look in the mirror and tell him what he is made out of
I am not convissed he is over his turnover
I think he is pressing some
I never thought I would see thtat from him
Manu, Rasho, and Barry for KG
J/K
Congrats, this thread tops in stupidity the ones you post in the political forum.
My quick two cents: No, Manu should not be traded. The reasons are so obvious even OG should know them.
And by the way, why am I not surprised ducks is all over this thread.
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