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Ahhh...no. Everyone in this era plays pussy-ball compared to those days.
Wrong. He would be perennially an all NBA 3rd teamer after Karl Malone and Charles Barkley. Maybe he gets a first team bid once or twice. But, you underestimate what Malone and Barkley did. And, especially since Duncan wouldn't have won championships, he wouldn't have been better than either Malone or Barkley.
Ahhh...no. Everyone in this era plays pussy-ball compared to those days.
LMFAO.
When they held a poll of sportswriter Duncan was considered the greatest PF of all time. Where would Ben be on the C list? Top 20? On the defensive C list? Top 10?
Kinda blows your theory that Beno Udrih is a better defender than Tony Parker, eh?
On the Center list? He's down there pretty far. But considering the state of centers and what is expected of them, he is an All-NBA Center in today's league.
As for defense, I think he's top-3. Olajuwaon, Russell, and Big Ben. I'm sure D-Rob fans are about to rip me apart for that so go ahead. But in the words of Dumars: "I haven't seen anyone better (than Wallace)."
Actually, kind of blows my theory that all coaches watch the game. I'll back off on Beno;'s defense though I think he handles physically stronger but slower guards better then Parker. But if you think that Parker vote has any legitmacy, well .....
It SHOULD be up to the coaches deciding on who gets what award.
Coaches>Media
Good job, Bruuuuuuuce!
Like who?
You did watch when Sam Cassell scored 12 straight points on Beno and the Spurs lost, right?
Granted, Parker wasn't playing defense as well as he could during the regular season, but in the playoffs he's been the team's best defender. He's held Mike Bibby and Jason Terry to a combined 15 points per game on 35% shooting.But if you think that Parker vote has any legitmacy, well .....
And really, a good amount of those points were scored when Beno or NVX were in the game.
That award was stolen from Bruce.
I know a thing or two about stealin', by the way..
2000, 2004
God Bless America
that shows Artest is a better defender then bowen. ron only played half a season and still made the defensive team.plus bonmzi owned bowen. thats probably why he wasnt dpoy.
Billups on second team? He doesn't deserve it. I'd rather take Rasheed Wallace.
Be thankful Ben didn't live in the era where he had to match up agianst a young Shaq, DRob, Hakeem, Ewing, Mourning, Dougherty, even Rik Smits night in and night out. Particularly if he was the one who'd actually sack up agianst them rather than Rasheed.
You're kidding. I've NEVER seen Parker do well against Cassell. They bring the help D almost when Cassell gets the ball across mid-court.
Don't ruin this Bruce thread with ridiculous Tony vs Beno arguments.
Thanks.
Why is Bowen still voted on as a guard? Is Manu a small forward and I missed the memo? I could understand when Hedo was here but not now.
I don't know what Bowen plays, but it ain't basketball.
When they held a poll of sportswriter Ben Wallace won the DPOY award....
GOAT talk is pure conjecture. How many of those sportwriters saw Pet play?
Thanks, I thought it was me for a sec, I editted an earlier post because I referred to him as a forward, when he was voted in as a guard.
Since Bowen guards forwards and guards either might be considered a valid defensive position for him.
As someone already said, he would have been a Power Forward (ala Rodman).
So basically you're saying he would have had to dummy down to get away from the dominant post players?
Hinrich got three first team votes? What the ?
The reason he can get away with being 6-7 and playing Center is because there aren't that many dominant post players at that position (or at all). He plays that position because it allows him to roam. His ability to disrupt the entire offense (not just one guy) is what makes him great. You have to adapt to the situation. In that situation he would play more like Rodman.
Hinrich is a flat out beast on defense. Don't let stereotypes get in the way of what really happens on the court.
My 1st team would have been...
PG- Hinrich
SG- Bowen
SF- Artest
PF- Duncan
C- Wallace
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