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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    The Spurs lost because they didn't make stops when it counted moreso than they lost because of officiating.

    The problem is that complaining about the former involves taking your team off its pedastol, which it seems only some fans are willing to do, whereas the latter is the easy way out.
    Yes, there were things that the Spurs needed to do to win and they didn't do them. Thats without a doubt. Tim had a game winner that he missed.

    But you still fail to see the point. The road tonight was easier for the Mavericks. Free throws to get into OT are much easier than having to earn it everytime down. When one team plays with a handicap like that, its harder.

    You're preaching to the choir about being introspective in these games. Go look at my previous posts and you'll see how adament I've been in that regard.

    But NONE of that that changes that the Spurs had an extra hurdle to get over tonight. It was BAD. It has been acknowledged by people without a bias and I'm sure there will be more discussion about it in the media. So yes, while the Spurs need to fix things that they can control, there is a HUGE and VERY LEGITIMATE GRIPE to be had with the officiating right now.

    Just realize it isn't an either/or situation. The Spurs could have won the game but it would have been INSPITE of bad officiating.

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    The Spurs lost because they didn't make stops when it counted moreso than they lost because of officiating.

    The problem is that complaining about the former involves taking your team off its pedastol, which it seems only some fans are willing to do, whereas the latter is the easy way out.
    The refs saw that we were up 9 playing OUR style and tempo, then they started calling crap to keep the mavs in the game. Period.

    Tempo changed.

    Mavs/Refs 3 Spurs 1

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    But NONE of that that changes that the Spurs had an extra hurdle to get over tonight. It was BAD. It has been acknowledged by people without a bias and I'm sure there will be more discussion about it in the media.
    I'm sorry, but no.

    It has been acknowledged by Charles Barkley, a self-admitted gambling addict who for all you know had big money on the Spurs to cover (not to mention a self-proclaimed Manu fan and generally a Mavs hater).

    And it has been acknowledged apparently by a few random fans on a Lakers message board? I'm sorry but when does a few people acknowledging something make it fact?

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    I'm sorry, but no.

    It has been acknowledged by Charles Barkley, a self-admitted gambling addict who for all you know had big money on the Spurs to cover (not to mention a self-proclaimed Manu fan and generally a Mavs hater).

    And it has been acknowledged apparently by a few random fans on a Lakers message board? I'm sorry but when does a few people acknowledging something make it fact?
    Your owner crossed the Rubicon of credibility when he called out the refs after Game 1. Fair is fair and we are pounding your buddies the refs for gift wrapping games 3 and 4 for you.

    As I said in another post, if the Soviets can fix the 72 Olympics B-Ball final, if a frenchman can fix figure skating pairs compe ions at Salt Lake City and if the leading Italian League Serie A team can be charged for fixing their games, who is to say that Stern and his buddies made "adjustments" after reading Cuban's posts?
    Last edited by efrem1; 05-16-2006 at 03:11 AM.

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    I'm sorry, but no.

    It has been acknowledged by Charles Barkley, a self-admitted gambling addict who for all you know had big money on the Spurs to cover (not to mention a self-proclaimed Manu fan and generally a Mavs hater).

    And it has been acknowledged apparently by a few random fans on a Lakers message board? I'm sorry but when does a few people acknowledging something make it fact?
    Barkley now has money on the Spurs? Wow, thats one of a reach. Kenny smith agreed with him as well.

    Charlie Rosen just wrote an article saying as much. Give it time, they game just finished. There will be more.

    And you didn't address anything else in my point. Don't harp on one thing you think you can refute (poorly at that) and ignore everything else I said. Address the entire post.

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    When Mavs fan comes up with a conspiracy it's fact. Of course.

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    I'm sorry, but no.

    It has been acknowledged by Charles Barkley, a self-admitted gambling addict who for all you know had big money on the Spurs to cover (not to mention a self-proclaimed Manu fan and generally a Mavs hater).

    And it has been acknowledged apparently by a few random fans on a Lakers message board? I'm sorry but when does a few people acknowledging something make it fact?
    Dear God, enough with this Barkley conspiracy betting stuff. You want people around here to quit with the ref conspiracies, then stop with the gambling fantasies.

    I think that most people are just disappointed that the game had to end the way it did...with a very questionable call sending the game into OT. Sure, the Spurs could have played better, but so could any team at any point. , the Mavs could have played better. Just tying the game from the free throw line on a call where the analyst has to do one of his "Steve Wonders" segments on where the foul call came from is just a piss poor ending to an otherwise entertaining affair. A foul at that juncture in the game should not have be looked at over and over again, and merit a final postulation that "I THINK that's what they called him for". With 8 seconds left, my God, it should be a damn obvious foul. Like I said, it was just a disappointing way to end a great game that had already had a lot of intrigue to it.

    That said, I firmly believe the Spurs will snatch Game Five, and can only hope for the best.

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    I'm sorry, but no.

    It has been acknowledged by Charles Barkley, a self-admitted gambling addict who for all you know had big money on the Spurs to cover (not to mention a self-proclaimed Manu fan and generally a Mavs hater).
    Wow, talk about a consipiracy...within a conspiracy. This is news man! Maybe Barkley owes Stern. Anyone else hear about this?

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    How can the Spurs possibly get a defensive stop when the refs are calling a phantom foul every other time down the court? It's lame...you'd think after game 3 they would swallow their ing whistles down the stretch and really focus and make the right calls, but nope...more of the same...how it happens I don't know, but the Mavs were given another game...that's two in a row. Fantastic.

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    How can the Spurs possibly get a defensive stop when the refs are calling a phantom foul every other time down the court? It's lame...you'd think after game 3 they would swallow their ing whistles down the stretch and really focus and make the right calls, but nope...more of the same...how it happens I don't know, but the Mavs were given another game...that's two in a row. Fantastic.
    Exactly

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