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    Zase se brigaj!

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    wow i've never seen this.

    bookmarking!!

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    Beno can't be any worse than Van Exel is out there

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    Beno can't be any worse than Van Exel is out there
    Yes, he can. But he can be also a difference maker. Pop has to make a decision when will he been given an opportunity to rebuild his playoff career. I think Beno and Rasho starting can make +15pt difference in half-time.

    Hey, but I'm a homer.

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    Damn, I think T Park's ready to sign Nick the Quick to a long term contract.

    timvp, T Park just say it, "Nick sucks". It's okay, everybody is wrong once in a while.

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    Damn, I think T Park's ready to sign Nick the Quick to a long term contract.

    timvp, T Park just say it, "Nick sucks". It's okay, everybody is wrong once in a while.
    this would mean abandoning all their posts of the last year

    i generaly like the point timvp is trying to make but he is soooo off when it comes to VanX

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    Kibic and ata, with your personal attacks you show no class. Grow up boys!
    What attacks? By asking if he ever plays basketball? I just want to know what level of competence I can expect from him. Sorry, I am new on forum.


    So, he does not play basketball?

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    Beno is the human 0-7 run. This series is tight enough without worrying about whether your point guard can bring the ball up the court.
    exactly. Avery would trap him every time with Harris and Terry. Beno would NOT be able to handle it.

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    , let Manu or Brent run the point when Tony sits.


    Van Exel can't work his way around a pick. The Mavs burnt him repeatedly on high screens. It was pissin me off!

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    If you have a good eye for these games you could see Tim Duncan was frustrated with Nick. 1st after terry busted the 3rd str8 wide open jumper on nick, and late in the 3rd or early 4th when Tim didn't pass to Nick who was wide open for 3 but instead threw it to a surprised Manu who thought the ball was gonna go to Nick.

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    Van Quicksand is so bent to make his own personal impact on the playoffs that he's a danger to the team's success.

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    Van Quicksand is so bent to make his own personal impact on the playoffs that he's a danger to the team's success.
    That's why he's +1?

    I'll admit he's sucking shooting the ball but from your backup point guard behind Tony, if he's keeping the games even I don't know what more you want. He's playing ugly but the net result is decent so I don't see much reason to complain.

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    shoot, steve kerr used to get benched most of the playoff games, but when he came out, he made the best of it, i think good ol'e Beeen-O's just waitin for his shot!

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    That's why he's +1?

    I'll admit he's sucking shooting the ball but from your backup point guard behind Tony, if he's keeping the games even I don't know what more you want. He's playing ugly but the net result is decent so I don't see much reason to complain.

    Spurs went on a 21-7 run in the 3rd quarter. NVE didn't play in the 3rd quarter. Coincidence?

    Somone posted this earlier --> http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bi...17&game=DALSAS

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    I think everyone is upset because he is not doing what everyone wants him to do, which is making 3's in the playoffs. But I think he is running the offense well and getting the ball to the right people and the right times. Its not like he is jacking up a bunch of shots, he had the same number of assists as Parker (4) in less than half the time.

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    Throwing Beno in this fire would kill him.
    When we played Tony with NVE, I would rather see Beno in NVE's spot.

    Tony needs to do a Jason Kidd and play just about the whole game-- Tim did last night. Nick just takes way too long to get the team into its offense and they end up having to take poor shots.

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    Spurs went on a 21-7 run in the 3rd quarter. NVE didn't play in the 3rd quarter. Coincidence?

    Somone posted this earlier --> http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bi...17&game=DALSAS
    In Game 1, Van Exel was +4. In Game 3, he was +5.

    Van Exel is playing pretty bad but it's still better than the alternative at this point. Plus, even though he's playing bad it's not hurting the Spurs too much.

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    In Game 1, Van Exel was +4. In Game 3, he was +5.

    Van Exel is playing pretty bad but it's still better than the alternative at this point. Plus, even though he's playing bad it's not hurting the Spurs too much.
    How do feel though about Tony and Nick? I don't see the reasoning- if Nick were playing great, it would be a good way to get him on the court more but last night-- why?? At least Beno is young-- and he has played pretty well when given the chance this season.

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    That's why he's +1?

    I'll admit he's sucking shooting the ball but from your backup point guard behind Tony, if he's keeping the games even I don't know what more you want. He's playing ugly but the net result is decent so I don't see much reason to complain.
    he's not shooting but that doesn't bother me so much as his atrocious defense.

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    Face it timvp, NVE is bust.
    I respect NVE, he did a lot of things in his career, but he is total bust this season. Nothing else, but bust.

    If Pop will insist in small ball, than Beno is much better fit than NVE. Small line-up with Beno + three of Parker, Barry, Manu, Finley, Bowen + Duncan/Horry, ther is enough guards to bring up the ball.

    Stats Beno - NVE
    FG% 0.455 0.343
    3PT% 0.387 0.357
    APG 1.7 1.8
    SPG 0.41 0.25
    TO 0.98 0.88
    PPG 5.1 5.5
    Min 10.9 15.2
    +/- -2.1 -4.4

    I see that all numbers speak for NVE.
    Last edited by ata; 05-18-2006 at 01:31 PM.

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    The only positive thing I can remember Nick doing in this entire series is the pass ahead to Ginobili for the breakaway dunk tonight. He's been pretty awful.

    Even I could have made that pass.

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    Van Exel kills the Spurs because not only does he give up points like Paris gives up blowjobs but he gives the and ones and he gets the Spurs near penalty situation very early in the quarter. Fortunately he didn't do that last night in the fourth but that's killing the Spurs.

    I seriously doubt you want to put the figures up on when Van Quicksand is in the game how many points are being scored by his man. Avery sees Quiocksand in and it's like throwing meat to a lion.

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    So what the happened to Sean Marks? He's a hustler and a great defender for a bench guy...plus he can play great low post....
    What the ?

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    How do feel though about Tony and Nick? I don't see the reasoning- if Nick were playing great, it would be a good way to get him on the court more but last night-- why?? At least Beno is young-- and he has played pretty well when given the chance this season.
    Truth is Van Exel has always been more of a shooting guard than a point guard. With the Mavs, he always played off the ball. The thinking is if you can get Nick going, he's a type of player who can win a game for you. With the way this series is going, a bust out performance from Nick would be huge.

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    Van Exel kills the Spurs because not only does he give up points like Paris gives up blowjobs but he gives the and ones and he gets the Spurs near penalty situation very early in the quarter. Fortunately he didn't do that last night in the fourth but that's killing the Spurs.

    I seriously doubt you want to put the figures up on when Van Quicksand is in the game how many points are being scored by his man. Avery sees Quiocksand in and it's like throwing meat to a lion.
    Van Exel's defensive numbers have been good all season. In the playoffs, teams actually score at a lower rate with Van Exel in the game than Tony (100.4 points per 48 for Tony to 96.1 for NVE). And that's not a fluke because it was the same way in the regular season (88.4 for Tony, 88.1 for NVE).

    If you want bad defense, put Beno in. He had the worst defensive rate on the team on paper during the regular season (91.3).

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