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    They don't pass that test because the test is simply finding someone to fill a role more cheaply.

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    If Pop and Rose have ended their feud, then it won't be long before Malik is finishing games. That's reality.

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    If Pop and Rose have ended their feud
    That's a big if.

    What part of "play him or trade him" do you not understand.
    They don't pass that test because the test is simply finding someone to fill a role more cheaply.
    Nope.

    The test is playing enough minutes to justify the maount of cap you are eating up.

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    Which is a test based on player cost.

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    Which is a test based on player cost.
    Which Malik failed las year using any reasonable threshold.

    So did Mercer but he's gone.

    So did Horry but he's back for 1/10 the price.

    I'd take a 17mpg Malik for 1/10 the price.

    Play him or trade him.

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    If Pop and Rose have ended their feud, then it won't be long before Malik is finishing games. That's reality.
    In the playoffs? Isn't Horry pretty much on everyones list to finishing games as long as he is healthy and its crunchtime? His defense and clutch shot factor always will probably make Pop itchy to put him in, even if Malik returns to 0203 form. Doesn't mean Malik won't see similiar minutes to 0203, but should it ever come to the point where Malik is a designated finisher along with Duncan underneath?

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    Rose's contract was a determining factor in his playing time. As you pointed out earlier, his contract, not his performance, was the motivation behind the front office's attempts to move him last season.

    Thus, ownership is looking to replace him with a cheaper alternative, and not necessarily one of like quality.

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    Rose's contract was a determining factor in his playing time.
    Bull .

    Rose was signed with the idea he was going to play 24+ mpg.

    He's not.

    His contract isn't worth it if he isn't playing that much.


    Period.

    Play him or trade him.

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    Again, the contract determined the playing time last season. You explained above precisely why that is so: because he doesn't fit in the ownership's budget.

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    Again, the contract determined the playing time last season.
    Again, bull . If he hadn't been beaten out by Horry and Willis earlier, he would've played those minutes.

    Malik got beat out. You have to get over your denial of this.

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    Even if he didn't get beat out fairly, Rose himself admits that he did stuff to Pop (which he regrets) that caused him to get benched.

    Watch the story.

    http://www.woai.com/spurs/story.aspx...A-FFB01AFF2D75

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    Yeah, he was "beat out" because management and ownership decided he didn't fit in their budget.

    Oh, the Spurs could never be so calculating. Right.

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    How was Tony Parker's game at the scrimmage? I saw that he scored only like 4 points, but how did his overall game look?

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    Yeah, he was "beat out" because management and ownership decided he didn't fit in their budget.

    Oh, the Spurs could never be so calculating. Right.
    Sorry, if your little conspiracy theory was true, Malik never would've played the regular 24mpg this past season BEFORE HE GOT BEAT OUT.

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    "How was Tony Parker's game at the scrimmage?"

    I thought he had a slow first quarter, but I think I saw some fire in the second quarter.
    He did push a few breaks pretty hard and finished one break layup with a shoulder stand.

    I can't say there was much intensity anywhere, in damn scrimmage. Brent, obviously trying to make a good first impression, succeeded. Having him do the monologue was a nice touch, since he's pretty good as stand-up comic. He's gonna help a lot and be fun to watch.

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    Oh, it's more than just a "conspiracy", it's quite obvious to anyone who has followed this team. Ownership decides he doesn't fit in their budget. Then Rose all of a sudden becomes a troublemaker. No, the Spurs have never made a player out to be greedy or unworthy before. What a naive notion.

    A primary driver behind the Spurs' problems with Rose's contract were the future contracts of Ginobili and Parker. Ginobili clearly cost less than the Spurs thought he would. That, along with the fact that the Spurs saw what 5 years and $32 mil would have got them in last summer's free agent market has suddenly turned Rose into the model team player again. Go figure.

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    If Malik's play is fine and his contract is such a bargain now why are the Spurs finding it impossible to move him?

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    Perhaps because the Spurs have decided to keep him.

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    Gee Marcus, is it easier to trade Malik to the Knicks or Celts at last years' salary if he's playing 24mpg or 14mpg?

    Spin away.
    A primary driver behind the Spurs' problems with Rose's contract were the future contracts of Ginobili and Parker.
    Yet, that completely fails to explain Malik's playing time the first two months of the season. You have done nothing to address this.

    Nothing.

    He got BEAT OUT by Horry last, just like Willis the year before.

    If he plays ~24mpg as planned, he's worth it.

    If he gets BEAT OUT again like the last two years, he's on the block.

    Scola (if this summer's price is an indicator) is going to be cheaper than Rose or Brian Cardinal, so your argument about this summer doesn't fly.

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    They've had opportunities to move him if they wanted to recently. They didn't.

    Go figure.

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    There are a million reasons trades don't go through.

    I completely believe Malik has been given another chance, especially since no trade materialized in time to sign Scola and the pickings for minimum-contract bigs was slim.

    If he gets BEAT OUT and plays less than 20mpg again, he's on the block.

    Simple.

    He'll be played or traded.

    Like I've said dozens of times.

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    I also notice Marcus convieniently ignores Malik admitting doing to Pop his ownself to get even.


    But, lets focus on that "soft" center.

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    The Spurs were willing to make David Robinson out to be a greedy bas a few years back. Some here seem to forget that.

    Rose did that after the Spurs decided that they wanted to move his contract. Much like the Spurs decided that Rose couldn't play anymore after they decided his contract was too much.

    Yes, Radosoft is a soft bas .

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    Ladies and gentlemen, the Marcus Bryant method to make your trade bait more attractive.

    1) Cut his playing time by at least a third after playing him his normal minutes for the first two months of the season.

    2) Circulate stories in the press about his being a troublemaker.

    3) Somehow force him to shoot a career low from the field when he actually does play.

    God, how could the Knicks have possibly turned us down?

    Tell us about the rabbits, Marcus.

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    kori has said she thought rose looked in shape
    and has regained his hop
    I thought he lost his hop last year
    he atleast is trying this year seems

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