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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    Best post I've ever seen on here. I used to have major respect for the Spurs but every person I've talked to around the country echoes these same sentiments. The constant complaining from Pop and every player got really old. Cuban is the only one who complains like this on the whole Mavs side. If you can't see this, it's time for Lasik.
    every player and every coach on every team complains about calls. avery is constantly 3 feet out into the actual court yelling about every call. if you can't see this, it's because it doesn't help prove your point.

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    every player and every coach on every team complains about calls. avery is constantly 3 feet out into the actual court yelling about every call. if you can't see this, it's because it doesn't help prove your point.

    Excuse me sir, kindly step away from your keyboard sir, facts like that don't matter to Mavs fans.

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    The spurs were a victim of Cubanism

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    The spurs were a victim of Cubanism
    who cares, it's over, let's not turn into kings fans.

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    Bottom line, Cuban's a , AJ's a pussy, Mavs fans are assholes.
    Yep, those Spurs fans sure are classy!

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    Yep, those Spurs fans sure are classy!

    Yep, those Mavs fans sure are assholes

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    The Mavs played better when it counts. They won both OT games, they executed better down the stretch, and the Spurs intensity couldn't match.
    The Spurs made multiple mental errors in the series (Games 3, 4 and 7) during important moments of games, and there is nobody to blame but themselves (well, except that call in Game 4, still can't getover/believe it). The Mavs deserved to win, the Spurs deserved to lose.
    BTW, the Mavs adjusted to the officiating, the Spurs didn't.

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    every player and every coach on every team complains about calls. avery is constantly 3 feet out into the actual court yelling about every call. if you can't see this, it's because it doesn't help prove your point.
    Not true, some teams complain worse than others, a whole lot worse. The Spurs piss and moan after every call, even the good calls, I believe it is because they got all the calls for a 2-3 year stretch.

    Avery complains to the officials, but he picks his battles. He complains when it appears that the officiating is screwing his team, Popavich is out there complaining whenever the officiating isn't screwing the other team. Huge difference. If you think that Avery is anywhere near the that Popavich is then you are blinded by your bias. Take it from me somebody that can't stand either the Mavs or the Spurs, Popavich and his players complain more than any other team in the league. It's disgusting.

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    Not true, some teams complain worse than others, a whole lot worse. The Spurs piss and moan after every call, even the good calls, I believe it is because they got all the calls for a 2-3 year stretch.

    Avery complains to the officials, but he picks his battles. He complains when it appears that the officiating is screwing his team, Popavich is out there complaining whenever the officiating isn't screwing the other team. Huge difference. If you think that Avery is anywhere near the that Popavich is then you are blinded by your bias. Take it from me somebody that can't stand either the Mavs or the Spurs, Popavich and his players complain more than any other team in the league. It's disgusting.

    So that's why you rip off posts from Mavs fan's boards. There is no way you're a Kings fan, I never saw a Kings fan complain about our "whining" Or how we got calls, mostly because we have no history with Kings fans. And our only chapter was this year.

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    there were times where I was borderline ASHAMED at how much ridiculous whining my Spurs were doing. Unbeleivable. Like in 5 year old girls out there. and WTF has gotten into Tim?!? He used to be the player that would NEVER complain about a call and if he did complain then you'd KNOW the refs musta messed up. Now? He WHINES AND WHINES AND WHINES. I love TD but for the love of god someone get him a pacifier. It was bad enough we lost the series, but even worse that we lost it by crying about EVERY single call in the series. Was there some horrific reffing that warranted some complaints? Absolutely, but for a team that has "championship experience" they should know when to shut the up and play through it and not let the refs get to their heads. I totally applaud the effort we gave in that Mavs series but my god the whining and the crying needs to stop cuz even when we DO get the call we still about it. I hope next year's Spurs team let's their play determine the game and not look to the refs for answers

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    "the officiating isn't screwing the other team."

    Several close game shots showed Pop seemingly indicate to the refes, "if you call that way on one end, why not call that way on the other end". If the game is called loose or tight, then call it the same way on both ends.

    The smoke, beyond the Mavs and Spurs, about bad officiating in the Mavs series was too widespread to be nothing but smoke with no fire.

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    "the officiating isn't screwing the other team."

    Several close game shots showed Pop seemingly indicate to the refes, "if you call that way on one end, why not call that way on the other end". If the game is called loose or tight, then call it the same way on both ends.

    The smoke, beyond the Mavs and Spurs, about bad officiating in the Mavs series was too widespread to be nothing but smoke with no fire.
    well it wasn't just the mavs/spurs series, the officiating has been horribly inconsistent in every series.

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    Not true, some teams complain worse than others, a whole lot worse. The Spurs piss and moan after every call, even the good calls, I believe it is because they got all the calls for a 2-3 year stretch.

    Avery complains to the officials, but he picks his battles. He complains when it appears that the officiating is screwing his team, Popavich is out there complaining whenever the officiating isn't screwing the other team. Huge difference. If you think that Avery is anywhere near the that Popavich is then you are blinded by your bias. Take it from me somebody that can't stand either the Mavs or the Spurs, Popavich and his players complain more than any other team in the league. It's disgusting.
    you are full of . avery does not pick his battles, he complains about everything and continues to in the post game.

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    Mavs played better, they won fair and square.

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    Mavs played better, they won fair and square.
    yes they did.

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    It's good to see that most of the whining around here has stopped and most are giving the Mavs a LITTLE credit.

    Coming back from down 3-1 and coming back from down 20 pts in the 1st half of game 7 show what kind of heart the Spurs have. As b-ball fans, we couldn't have asked for much more out of the series, regardless of who won it. TX b-ball put on a show for the rest of the country

    Now hopefully the Mavs can keep moving on and win the le, then at least Spurs fans know they lost to the '05-'06 champs and the 2 best teams are in TX
    as much as a good sport your are, i will disagree on a few things. one, i give the mavs full credit, but all they have proven is that they can stay alive so far.
    3 out of the 7 games came down to tying by mav free throws late in the 4thQ on ticky tack foul calls. as much as i don't like to complain about officiating, that was ridiculous. there doesn't need to be a thousand wistes called in a series like this, they need to just let them play. a game shouldn't be decided on late game free throws.

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    Best post I've ever seen on here. I used to have major respect for the Spurs but every person I've talked to around the country echoes these same sentiments. The constant complaining from Pop and every player got really old. Cuban is the only one who complains like this on the whole Mavs side. If you can't see this, it's time for Lasik.
    every team complains about calls, that part of the game, singling out the spurs is ridiculous.
    yea, cuban is in a class of his own, and thats why no officals or any other owner in the nba likes him.

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    Spurs were victims of chance and poor matchup cir stances. Dallas was not a much better team, but they matched up well, and forced the Spurs to scramble and bend to their small ball game. Either team could have won this series. I really beleive if they played 10 times it would be 5-5. But the Mavs were better in Game 7 when they had to be, and convincingly won Game 2. They were the superior team in the series. I don't really think they were more talented. They had more depth and a type of basketball that was successful under the cirumstances against the Spurs -- but I don't really see them as being a superior overall team.

    Either way it doesn't matter now. Dallas will likely be playing in the NBA finals.

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    Spurs were victims of chance and poor matchup cir stances. Dallas was not a much better team, but they matched up well, and forced the Spurs to scramble and bend to their small ball game.
    Matching up better = they were the better team.

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    So that's why you rip off posts from Mavs fan's boards. There is no way you're a Kings fan, I never saw a Kings fan complain about our "whining" Or how we got calls, mostly because we have no history with Kings fans. And our only chapter was this year.
    Yeah that makes a lot of sense, I can't be a Kings fan because I'm extremely bothered by the Spurs childish behavior on the court. Look, I'm a huge fan of the game and I recognize that this behavior has spun out of control in the NBA, and this is never more painfully obvious to me than when I watch the Spurs. I've already stated that my Kings are also at the top of the league when it comes to this behavior, but there isn't even a close second to the Spurs. If you weren't pissing and moaning right along with the players, you might be able to open your eyes for 2 seconds and see how ing ridiculous their behavior is.

    BTW, what post did I rip off from a Mavs board? Are you talking about the pics? I just posted those to emphasize my point. If you can find a group of photos of any other team in the NBA crying to the refs, be my guest and post it. You'll never find a group of pics like that, the closest you'll come up with is Shaq and Kobe's Lakers, they cried like little es too. And again, they had a coach that pissed and moaned when the refs weren't giving them all the calls, and like the Spurs they got all the calls.

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    I don't think the refs made Ginoflop blow a layup at the end of game 7 or made the Spurs come out and play like a WNBA team in overtime.
    It was a calculated shot by Manu. He was quoted as saying he knew he could throw it out to Big Shot Bob, at the same time he saw Duncans man cheat over towards him as he started the drive, thus he also knew that enough time was left on the clock that his own missed shot could be put back by Duncan. Duncan clearly had position and the rebound. Any crap about "fighting for the ball" is b.s. More accurate to say Dirk intentionally fouled him over the back. In fact Dirk might have gotten Manu on his shot. Touch foul? Ha! Lets not even go over the touchers Dirk got in two other endings. Anywho, GNob should have never let it come to that with his stoopid foul of Dirk.

    It was a gift to the Mavs, pure and simple. While true the reffing always has its ups and downs, Game 3 was a farce in which the Mavs are not even close without Dirks 24FTAs on 3-9 shooting leading to a 50-30 Mavs advantage .

    Do i think the Spurs should have never let it get into incompetent refs hands? Yes.

    To the threads topic, I think Pop was owned by Avery. That the Spurs "had" to play small ball the entire series is bullball and I think Pop was on an ego trip.

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