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    nevermind my earlier edit, mavs were at 96 mill in payroll this year.
    But that 96 mil is inclusive of Finley's 16 mil that actually doesn't go against their salary cap. I believe it also includes the 4.5 mil that Shawn Bradley had signed before retiring, so that shouldn't be included either. Plus anothe 1.5 for Christie who also retired, so they weren't nearly as bad off as it would seem.

    Next year they should be in the $50 mil range before making a run at Terry. They absolutely need to move Daniels if he isn't going to recieve any more PT than he does, I think it is imperative that they resign Terry, if they want to continue down this road of success.

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    even with 15 mill off the books, they are still way over the cap - i think their payroll was 90 million this year, second only to the knicks. i guess we'll find out whether cubes was serious about being somewhat fiscally responsible. paying nearly the salary cap in luxury tax probably gets old after a while.
    Edit: sorry, the 90 mill was for 04-05. with finley's salary not counting, it was probably down a bit. but still pretty high.

    I think by *fiscally responsible* Cuban was referring to the $2 tickets for games next season and the lower season ticket prices, WOOHOO!!!!

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    Sourologist that was so funny!!!
    Are you a comedian by profession, or do you just have a gift for rich comedic material? You remind me of a young Lenny Bruce.

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    i heard that the Mavs already had a contract ready for Jason Terry

    this is from someone who works in management in an NBA organisation so dont take it too seriously

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    i heard that the Mavs already had a contract ready for Jason Terry

    this is from someone who works in management in an NBA organisation so dont take it too seriously
    I would be shocked if he isn't re-signed. Who hit all of Dallas' clutch shots? Nope, it wasn't Dirk. He listens to too much David Haselhoff during crunch time. It was Terry. Big mistake by the mavs if he isn't re-signed.

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    Dallas is probably going to win the le this year,


    not over Miami or Detroit no.

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    diop was a non-factor until that overtime for the most part. duncan was dehydrated, but diop stepped up and stopped him. i still don't think he's a long term answer at center, but was a very good cheap pickup. dampier is way overpaid for what he does.
    Diop had trouble with Duncan. What people don't notice as much is how well Diop guards the paint. Take Diop out and put Van Horn in and it is a layup drill. The whole offense of the spurs changed to more jump shooting because of Diop. That's why Finley was inserted in the lineup. If you go with jumpshooting you might as well bring the best ones in for that job.

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    Did you watch Game 3 last night? Diop kept Nash out of the paint and while Nash got some points, he didn't get them from the paint. Diop has gotten better at making baskets if he's fed the ball in the paint. Of course, when you compare Diop to Duncan there's not really a comparison but most teams don't have a Duncan. You have to remember, Diop is only 24, he's still developing his skills and spent lots of time sitting on the bench in Cleveland before Dallas picked him up and utilized him.
    Exactly. I'm not sure if Diop is only going to get a little better or he's going to make a huge leap at some point, but with the lack of decent or even functional centers in the NBA, letting him go would be crazy.

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    terry at sg is a bad mismatch for dallas against most teams, and harris is in no way ready to be a starter for a whole season. that's why i think it is quite a pickle for dallas, unless they can obtain a serviceable traditional pg.
    well i honestly dont think jason terry is worth ten mil, and come on guys lets not kid ourselfs. we all know that mark cuban is not gonna pay terry the big bucks. he didnt do it with nash, finley nor van exel.

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    Maybe the Spurs should go after Mbenga. Put a little hurt on Marky's wallet.
    If the Spurs do this, I WILL BE PISSED!!

    I really do think that he will be a pretty good center. He definitely has some developing left to do tho. He has the defensive/blocking/energy potential of a Ben Wallace, and a little bit of an offensive game too. Maybe a hybrid of Ben Wallace/Amare Stoudamire. A mix of the two.

    Unfortunately, we have 2 centers under contract for a few more years and Mbenga wants more PT. I think it is unlikely the Mavs keep him.

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    Somebody will go after Mbenga, an Atlanta, a New Orleans, or someone else with cap space and a big need for a big man. He is third in the league per 48 minutes in blocks.

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    not over Miami or Detroit no.
    The same Detroit who had to go to 7 just to beat LeBron James? We've had great success against both teams this year, we match up well with Miami and we are simply better than Detroit. Bitter much?

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    Maybe the Spurs should go after Mbenga. Put a little hurt on Marky's wallet.
    I'm Mbegging that he stays right where he is.

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    Mbenga would be awesome for the spurs. They would have 2 shot blockers which would make it a nightmare once again to go into the paint. The problem with Mbenga though is he gets in foul trouble a lot.

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    Why? He's your third center, right?

    I haven't seen that much of him (mostly because he hardly played), so what's so special about him, and what will you use him for if you resign him?
    Granted most Mavs fans overrate him but he's a strong and athletic shotblocking big with a fast improving offensive game, something that most teams pay a premium for -- you just don't let guys like that walk away. He came in handy when Damp and Diop picked up a lot of fouls guarding Gasol and I expect him to do the same next year.

    And who will pick up that dump? Daniels hasn't exactly made himself a hot commodity with his playoff performance?
    I'm pretty sure Isiah couldn't resist a straight-up Malik Rose swap. Shorter contract and he could be Dirk's back-up or our center in a small ball line-up. And probably wishful thinking but trading him to the Hornets (along with another filler) to get PJ Brown would also be nice.

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    I think we can all agree that standing pat after winning a championship does not always translate into success in the following season. Every year after the Spurs won other teams got better while we tweaked our lineup. Dallas needs to think long and hard about offering Terry a long term contract because if they do then the team remains as is while other teams improve. I think Dallas has to realize that teams such as the Spurs will tweak their rosters to add more athleticism and take way the Mavs ability to create mismatches. If this happens what does Dallas do with no roster flexibility or cap space? Now the same theory applies to the Suns as well because last year we were able to play small ball with them and they withered. I don't think Dallas would wither away but they played almost a perfect half in game 7 and still almost lost. I do believe Dallas will win the championship this year because of the nightmare matchups they will pose to either EC team but beyond this year they will not catch anybody off guard.Like all 29 teams who don't win they gear their rosters to compete with the better teams. I know Dallas has a decision to make in that do they stand pat? What happens if other teams get better and they have no more moves left? Interesting offseason is Dallas but if they win the championship no one is going to worry about next year's roster until training camp.

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    I think Cuban is almost guaranteed to resign Terry after sniffing the le this year. Considering he is obsessed about winning, Dallas is in pretty good shape cap wise...Van Horn and his 15 million contract come off this year and unless he resigns on the cheap he is gone. Next year will be the nutcheck for Cuban...He will need to resign Josh Howard and he will command big bucks...Stackhouse and his 8 million contract come off that year but unless they get another reliable bench scorer they will probably need to pay up to get Stack to stay...Dampiers inflated contract will come into play down the road as well...his 10 million+ a year contract for the next 5 years makes him virtually untradeable...they are stuck with him as their starting 5 and don't really have any options there...The most humorous aspect is that Cuban will be paying Finley 17 million next year and 18 million the following year to play for the Spurs...gotta love that..

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    The interesting thing will be if Cuban throws big $ at Terry at age 29 after balking at paying a 30 year Nash a couple years ago.

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    The interesting thing will be if Cuban throws big $ at Terry at age 29 after balking at paying a 30 year Nash a couple years ago.
    Nash was a hobbling playoff performer every year and has a history of injuries while Terry's anything but.

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    But that 96 mil is inclusive of Finley's 16 mil that actually doesn't go against their salary cap. I believe it also includes the 4.5 mil that Shawn Bradley had signed before retiring, so that shouldn't be included either. Plus anothe 1.5 for Christie who also retired, so they weren't nearly as bad off as it would seem.

    Next year they should be in the $50 mil range before making a run at Terry. They absolutely need to move Daniels if he isn't going to recieve any more PT than he does, I think it is imperative that they resign Terry, if they want to continue down this road of success.

    I thought it still counts against the cap, but you don't have to pay luxury tax on it

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    Granted most Mavs fans overrate him but he's a strong and athletic shotblocking big with a fast improving offensive game, something that most teams pay a premium for -- you just don't let guys like that walk away. He came in handy when Damp and Diop picked up a lot of fouls guarding Gasol and I expect him to do the same next year.
    Makes sense, but wouldn't a guy like that be pretty desperate to go somewhere where he's not going to be buried deep on the bench?

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    Salary situation for all teams here...

    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

    I hope Dallas keeps Mbenga...he's extremely raw, very athletic, works really hard, and the fans love him. And he's a black belt in judo...good guy to have if a brawl breaks out

    I don't think Terry will get what Nash was offered...but I definitely hope they re-sign him...

    The should launch KVSuck out of a cannon...I'd rather see Josh Powell in the game than him...

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    Salary situation for all teams here...

    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

    I hope Dallas keeps Mbenga...he's extremely raw, very athletic, works really hard, and the fans love him. And he's a black belt in judo...good guy to have if a brawl breaks out

    I don't think Terry will get what Nash was offered...but I definitely hope they re-sign him...

    The should launch KVSuck out of a cannon...I'd rather see Josh Powell in the game than him...
    van horn's points were the difference vs the spurs! how soon we forget.

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    van horn's points were the difference vs the spurs! how soon we forget.
    I thought it was the officiating that was the difference??

    Definitely didn't forget...he just happened to hit a few shots...the guy blows ass. Overpaid, defensive liability, streaky shooter, and injury prone...

    Might be worth $1-2M/yr next year...just keep him off the court when Dirk is on, or if it's crunch time...

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