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    That was from Patricia's site. Let me try to find something elsewhere. Her infomation is usually accurate, but not always complete.

    RealGM's trade checker shows 12 non-expired contracts, plus their first rounder. Booth has a player option, but at this point, he'd be foolish to exercise it.

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    Washington's as well to where the offer they offerfor Jeffries, they can pretty much make sure it will be painful for Washington to match.
    We're talking a maximum delta here of two million dollars. What do you guys think he's worth? You say not the max. Fine.

    So what do you want to offer him? 2 million? 2.5? If Washington thinks he can contribute for them (which he did this year when Jamison went out), if they only think he's worth 1.5 or so, do you really think they kick the dirt, say aw shucks, and let him walk for $500K a year?

    The other kicker is Washington can offer one more year than we can. So say we make him an offer, and it's within a million of what Washington thinks he's worth. They can just stay with their same offer and give him the extra year, and he's got an extra year of income coming in.

    I'm sorry, my experience in watching restricted free agents the last several years is that there is very little possibility of prying them away from their teams with an offer.

    Like I said, I think you're looking at a sign and trade if it's gonna happen.

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    I think the question is not how much is this guy worth in money, but how much is he worth to our team and how much would he have helped against dallas. Would Fin and Bruce have to play PF if Jeffries was on the team? Would we have to go so small that we couldn't keep guys out of the lane and off the glass? Would we still be playing right now if we had a guy like him on our team this year.

    If the spurs think that he is the guy who can match up with the dirks of this league then they need to do whatever it takes, trade whoever you have to or guarantee how ever many years it takes to make it happen.

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    Has anyone found what this guy does well? The best thing I can say for him is he's a decent offensive rebound.

    Beyond standard numbers, he's still nothing. In +/-, he was last on the Wizards for anyone who played decent minutes. In the playoffs, second to last. Last year, last for anyone who played at least half the minutes in the season.

    He's a pretty decent defender, can pull down some offensive rebounds but that's all I see. I don't want the Spurs to sign a 6-foot-11 small forward just because they are a 6-foot-11 small forward.

    He also has a torn ACL to his credit.

    I just don't see what he brings to the table.

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    If you subtract his horrible second year, his FG% is pretty damn good, like 45-46% off the top of my head.

    His career postseason numbers are also better than his career numbers. That's good.

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    Has anyone found what this guy does well? The best thing I can say for him is he's a decent offensive rebound.

    Beyond standard numbers, he's still nothing. In +/-, he was last on the Wizards for anyone who played decent minutes. In the playoffs, second to last. Last year, last for anyone who played at least half the minutes in the season.

    He's a pretty decent defender, can pull down some offensive rebounds but that's all I see. I don't want the Spurs to sign a 6-foot-11 small forward just because they are a 6-foot-11 small forward.

    He also has a torn ACL to his credit.

    I just don't see what he brings to the table.
    Jack of all trades, master of none. There's no one thing (like Bowen's lockdown defense or Evans's rebounding) where he's at the top of the league. But he's versatile as .

    Decent defender, okay rebounder, mobile, athletic, good size, has some range, can also score inside. Can play both the 3 and the 4 without being out of position, so he can play effective minutes whether we have a small or a big lineup.

    Realistically, we probably have both a power forward and a small forward on our shopping list this offseason. Jeffries is one of the few guys who could do both effectively.

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    How well does Jeffries move his feet? Can he stay in front of guys like Howard, Prince?

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    His jumper is being way overrated in this thread. In shots outside of the paint, he shot 30% this season.

    30%.

    The reason why his field goal percentage is good is because around 10% of his shots are dunks.

    I just don't think he fits.

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    Actually, 30% is impressive for JJ. In 2004-05, he shot 25% on jumpers.

    In this years playoffs, he shot 19% on jumpers.

    Suddenly, 30% doesn't looking that bad.


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    His jumper is being way overrated in this thread. In shots outside of the paint, he shot 30% this season.

    30%.

    The reason why his field goal percentage is good is because around 10% of his shots are dunks.

    I just don't think he fits.
    I know, and I'm not overrating his jumper -- it's nothing great, but he has more of a jumper than Nazr or Evans or a lot of guys who we could get to play PF or C for us. Even Malik's streaky jumper was better than we have now.

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    Actually, 30% is impressive for JJ. In 2004-05, he shot 25% on jumpers.

    In this years playoffs, he shot 19% on jumpers.

    Suddenly, 30% doesn't looking that bad.

    I didn't see the 19%. Ouch.

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    I know, and I'm not overrating his jumper -- it's nothing great, but he has more of a jumper than Nazr or Evans or a lot of guys who we could get to play PF or C for us. Even Malik's streaky jumper was better than we have now.
    Jeffries would have the worst jumper on the team. Rasho and Nazr have much better percentages on jumpers. Even Reggie Evans has him beat.

    To say Jeffries can't shoot is the understatement of the day.

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    Jeffries would have the worst jumper on the team. Rasho and Nazr have much better percentages on jumpers. Even Reggie Evans has him beat.
    I stand corrected -- I had no idea it was worse than theirs. Wow. So much for Jeffries.

    By the way, Oberto rates at a whopping 25%.

    Edited to add: it was a small sample, but Oberto managed to make a stunning 0% of his jumpers in the playoffs. 20% were blocked.

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    Derrick Mckey wasn't a good 3pt shooter either

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