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Soft? Man, that . Dude couldn't even walk in the 2002 playoffs, but he just took the ing shot and came out and played Shaq 35 minutes a game.
I'll just pull up a seat and let Whott handle this one.
Soft? Man, that . Dude couldn't even walk in the 2002 playoffs, but he just took the ing shot and came out and played Shaq 35 minutes a game.
There's nothing "to handle" in that argument. He played through pain? Big deal, every player does at some point. Nobody was scared of playin the Admiral. Look how Malone punked him. If that was my head, Malone would have been in the ER the next game we played. I understand being homers, but damn, you can't argue the facts. Did you ever see anyone try and physically punk Shaq? no, and you won't....ever.
I'm the ultimate homer, but I'd have to say that Dream was the best on this list.
Signed, David Robinson
2002 playoffs?
Oh wait...that was before Odogg t started following basketball...
Playing through pain? The guy couldn't feel his ing legs entering the 2002 series with LA, and yet he came back for game 3 to guard the most phyiscal player in NBA history.
It's a toss up between shaq and hakeem, shaq may be the most dominant player of all time but its hard to compare. Shaqs first year or two in the league he was dominated by hakeem. Shortly after hakeem retired, so we never got to see both of them go head to head in their primes.
So Robinson was "soft" because he wasn't a thug like Malone? He got handed that label because he had the balls to conduct himself with some class. Sadly re s like you that are subjected to Mark Cuban's idiocy are dumb enough to buy the hype and confuse talking with accomplishments.
What about Robinson made him "soft"? Was it the Defensive Player of the Year award, the rebounding le, or the blocked shots le? Because those are all things that Shaq has never had so I can only assume that one of those must be the culprit that makes Shaq so physically dominant while Robinson was soft.
Get a clue asshole.
Yea ill agree i dont think he was soft. Wasn't he in the army? People in the army aren't "soft."
I wish Hakeem had retired when he started to really nosedive around 98 or so. Unfortunately, he stuck around until 2001, embarrasing himself in Toronto.
If we had to rank the players all-time, I'd go:
1. Shaq - 5 Finals, 13-time All-Star
2. Duncan - All-NBA First team his first 8 years in the league, 2nd team his 9th. The only player on the list to never lose in the first round or before.
3. Olajuwon - best in his prime, but his stretch of dominance was pretty short
4. Robinson - his back injury in '96 robbed him of 2-3 MVP-level years, but from 90-96 he was a top-3 big
5. Ewing
6. Garnett
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I like how you use the term "class" when you are trying to spin it to show that he was a "classy" man on the court while he was getting his brains beat in! LoL!
1) Malone used to punk him
2) Shaq punk'd him many times, in the media and on the court
3) He never even got to the finals until TD arrived
4) He had arguably one of the best physiques of any player in history, was 7'1 yet intimidated nobody. Unless it was a 6'2 guard going to the hole trying to shoot over him.
5) He pet shot was a face up jumpshot, minimal contact. He was scared to bang.
That's a grape to me. Spurs fans you know this, quit trying to defend it!
You're full of . Robinson's pet shot was the free throw, because he'd always face up, but the ball on the floor, attack the basket, and get ing crushed. Tell me any other player who'd win a le with ing Vinny Del Negro and Avery Johnson as his starting backcourt. It was like Garnett with Trenton Hassell and Marko Jaric this season, only Robinson took his team to the playoffs and won 50 games every year.
Yeah, uhh... 1 and 2 fit under the "class" thing. What's your point?
3) Like many great players, he had crap for people around him. So he couldn't make it to the finals as a one man show. Neither could anyone else. Not even Jordan could.
4) He altered more shots than anyone else in his time frame, guards or otherwise. Yeah his offensive post game didn't frighten many the way Dream's did, but on the defensive end he intimidated everyone but Shaq and Dream.
5) The admiral didn't bang on offense more because he was better facing the basket. But he did his fair share of post work.
But if that makes Robinson soft, what does that make people like Dirk and KG? Charmin?
But if that makes Robinson soft, what does that make people like Dirk and KG? Charmin?
Damn close, at least until this year for Dirk. Dirk's been soft since he came into the league, but he is changing that around this year. And look where it has brought the Mavs. No more sitting at the 3 point line shootin bullsh*t 3's, but postin up and taking it to the hole. Exactly like what he did to Bowen on that last play in Game 7. Now that he has elevated and rounded out his game, he is turning into an unstoppable force. Once Dirk gets really comfortable on the block, playing with his back to the basket, you guys will really come to hate him! Garnett is where Dirk was 2 years ago. (And where David was until Pop/Avery/Duncan arrived) Likes to spot up and shoot jumpers all day, instead of do the dirty work that's needed to win in the NBA playoffs.
And you that Spurs fans don't argue the facts? With the exception of #3 there's not a single quantifiable fact in your whole argument. Go spank it to your Ashton Kutcher poster.
Well, i think robinson was a great player, i never really thought of him being soft, although hes definately not the greatest spur of all time.
People who use the word "punk" as a verb have lots of credibility -- or, should I say "street cred"?
Dirk's game is posting up near the charity stripe and taking fade away jumpers. He sprinkles in the occational layup, but that's about it. Don't get me wrong -- the dude is awesome, but he doesn't play in the style of most 7 footers.
Dirk still spends most of his time driving from one wing to the other to shoot fall-away jumpers if there's any sort of inside presence. He's still soft as . You're right that he toughened up a little this year, but he's got a LONG way to go to even come close to Robinson's toughness. Shoot, Timmy is softer than the Admiral.
Dirk will never be comfortable in the block and he'll always be primarily a jump shooter. That's his skill set, and he'd be an idiot to move away from it. Dirk just needs to bang on defense instead of running away from any sort of challenge.
I don't think you could say dirk is totally soft of offense, he has been stepping it up and taking it to the hole. If he wouldn't have driven to get the and 1 in game 7 against the spurs we would have never gone to overtime and get a chance to win. But you could make a great argument that he is soft on defense. Ill admit his defense is still below average.
2) Shaq punk'd him many times, in the media and on the court
Shaq didn't punk him until David lost a step. David regularly schooled a young shaq including laying down 71 points in a single game to steal the scoring le from shaq.
Since when did Shaq play on the Clippers?
Dirk is still primarily a jump shooter, which is good, since he so deadly. BUT that toughness he had down deep, is starting to really show under the General's guidance. If you guys didn't have Avery's backbone/guts in 99, you wouldn't have even gotten to the finals that year.
Did I say Shaq was on the Clippers?
Malone and Hakeem owned Robinson in the playoffs. Shaq never did until David was on the decline.
Your thinking AJ put over the top is funny. AJ had alot of help from Antonio Daniels. He had probably the best (read that as most consistent) backup point guard in the league to this day backing him up.
Is 13 really your number of posts? Or your age? IQ, perhaps?
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