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    Stand-up philosopher CharlieMac's Avatar
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    Same old right wing/red-state/rabble .
    You people are so ing stupid and dishonest, it's repugnant.

    People who are against the war and want th Repugs out of power do NOT support the enemy.

    And those same people may or may not be liberals, not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Is that too ing complicated for you cretins to understand?

    Of course it isn't too complicated (except for XZ, GT, vashner), and that's where your dishonesty is on display.
    There's no denying that people who claim the left suppots terrorism simply because they're not Bush fans are idiots, but it really doesn't nagate the fact that these are Debbie Downer days for Democratic politicians.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    You know, for a skeptic, Dan, you sure do miss some softballs.
    hummm...I just don't know why I am a skeptic? Maybe it's because ABC News was the first to report Al-Zarqawi's death - I'm surprised it wasn't John Stoussel, or maybe it's because of reports like this...

    Military Plays Up Role of Zarqawi
    Jordanian Painted As Foreign Threat To Iraq's Stability
    By Thomas E. Ricks
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Monday, April 10, 2006; Page A01


    The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military do ents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    The do ents state that the U.S. campaign aims to turn Iraqis against Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian, by playing on their perceived dislike of foreigners. U.S. authorities claim some success with that effort, noting that some tribal Iraqi insurgents have attacked Zarqawi loyalists.

    For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi's role in the insurgency. The do ents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.

    Some senior intelligence officers believe Zarqawi's role may have been overemphasized by the propaganda campaign, which has included leaflets, radio and television broadcasts, Internet postings and at least one leak to an American journalist. Although Zarqawi and other foreign insurgents in Iraq have conducted deadly bombing attacks, they remain "a very small part of the actual numbers," Col. Derek Harvey, who served as a military intelligence officer in Iraq and then was one of the top officers handling Iraq intelligence issues on the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told an Army meeting at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., last summer.
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    Nothing to see here folks! Move Along!!


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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    Zarqawi's death: nice.

    Liberals looking to dismiss Zarqawi's death: sucky.

    Administration officials trying to sell Zarqawi's death as the turning point in Iraq: bull .

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    Now can we finally get Osama?

    yeah - what ever happened to that guy?

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    I'll vote republican when they pull the chad from my cold dead finger.

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    al Zarqawi was not killed here. This place was home to 400 blind orphans. See? I have this teddy bear and knapsack to prove it!

    Bad America! Very bad America!

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    Zarqawi's death: nice.

    Liberals looking to dismiss Zarqawi's death: sucky.

    Administration officials trying to sell Zarqawi's death as the turning point in Iraq: bull .

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    al Zarqawi was not killed here. This place was home to 400 blind orphans. See? I have this teddy bear and knapsack to prove it!

    Bad America! Very bad America!
    Very nice.

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    Zarqawi's death: nice.

    Liberals looking to dismiss Zarqawi's death: sucky.

    Administration officials trying to sell Zarqawi's death as the turning point in Iraq: bull .
    Well put.

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    al Zarqawi was not killed here. This place was home to 400 blind orphans. See? I have this teddy bear and knapsack to prove it!

    Bad America! Very bad America!
    Insert Dan's picture here and you've got it perfectly!

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    I heard al-Zarqawi was adopted by a gay married couple early on in life.
    And to top it off he was a closet IDer. Who would have thought?

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Check this out, as previously reported here, it turns out al-Zarqawi had been 'fired' months before he was targeted...

    Zarqawi 'sacked for mistakes'
    Sunday 02 April 2006


    Zarqawi is said to have made many political mistakes

    Iraq's resistance has replaced Abu Musab al-Zarqawi as political head of the rebels, the son of Osama bin Laden's mentor has said in Jordan.

    Hudayf Azzam, 35, who claims close contacts with the fighters, said on Sunday: "The Iraqi resistance's high command asked Zarqawi to give up his political role and replaced him with an Iraqi, because of several mistakes he made.

    "Zarqawi's role has been limited to military action. Zarqawi bowed to the orders two weeks ago and was replaced by Iraqi national Abdullah bin Rashed al-Baghdadi."
    English al-Jazeera

    Kinda makes ya wonder if the U.S. was just emptying OBL's trash again?

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    OMFG! al-jazeera! haha... dan!!! too ing funny!

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    Yeah, but al Jazeera is no John Stossel...

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Yeah, but al Jazeera is no John Stossel...
    If you had a miseducation you would know that the English al Jazeera news agency is different from the Qatar run al Jazeera.

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    I see republicans keeping control of both the House and Senate.

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    If you had a miseducation you would know that the English al Jazeera news agency is different from the Qatar run al Jazeera.
    No it's not.

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    I have zero credibility in the political forum, so I may as well ruin my anonymity by saying- how convenient that he is dead as the mid-term election races heat up and the president needs a good boost in the polls.
    No doubt, another strategic move by the Bush Admin.

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    If you had a miseducation you would know that the English al Jazeera news agency is different from the Qatar run al Jazeera.
    Yeah, one's in english, the other in arabic. Good ing call.

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    im glad hes dead even though i dont know who the terroist bas is

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Yeah, one's in english, the other in arabic. Good ing call.
    Distant cousins if anything. Al Jazeera the arabic station is run by the Emir of Qatar. Al Jazeera international is led by Russell Merryman. Russell originally joined the BBC in 1989 as a broadcast journalist and worked in many areas of output as a reporter, producer, presenter and news editor.

    Other British and American journalists and news people working for al Jazeera International include

    In September 2005, Josh Rushing joined Al Jazeera International. He was the press officer for the United States Central Command during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, and in that role was featured in the do entary "Control Room." Rushing will be working from the Washington, DC Bureau. He commented that "In a time when American media has become so nationalized, I'm excited about joining an organization that truly wants to be a source of global information..."[6] Former CNN and BBC news anchorwoman and award winning journalist Veronica Pedrosa and veteran UK broadcaster David Frost have also joined the team, along with Riz Khan, a former BBC reporter who most recently was host of the CNN talk show Q&A, CNN producer James Wright, and Kieran Baker, a former editor and producer for CNN who most recently was Acting General Manager, Communications and Public Participation for ICANN.[7][8][9][10] On 2 December 2005, Stephen Cole, a senior anchor on BBC World and Click Online presenter, announced he was joining Al Jazeera International.[11] The network announced on 12 January 2006 that former Nightline correspondent Dave Marash would be the co-anchor from their Washington studio. He described his new position as "the most interesting job on Earth."[9] On 6 February 2006 it was announced that the former BBC reporter Rageh Omaar would host a daily weeknights do entary series, Witness.[12] With Al Jazeera's growing global outreach and influence, some who thought of them as an "alternative media" source have changed their minds.[13]
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    Distant cousins if anything. Al Jazeera the arabic station is run by the Emir of Qatar. Al Jazeera international is led by Russell Merryman. Russell originally joined the BBC in 1989 as a broadcast journalist and worked in many areas of output as a reporter, producer, presenter and news editor.

    Other British and American journalists and news people working for al Jazeera International include


    From Wikipedia:

    In addition to its TV channels, Al Jazeera operates Arabic and English-language websites at [1] . Its English-language website is at http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage. Aljazeera.com is an unrelated English language website.
    Oops...

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Oops...
    So, the American Press can filter its news, right or wrong, through its American news agencies - the AP/UPI, but Al Jazeera International can't do the same because it attracts a mostly Muslim audience in mostly Muslim nations?

    Check.

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    So, the American Press can filter its news, right or wrong, through its American news agencies - the AP/UPI, but Al Jazeera International can't do the same because it attracts a mostly Muslim audience in mostly Muslim nations?

    Check.
    So you can lie and/or just make random stuff up, but as soon as somebody calls you out on it you try to paint them as close minded or bigots instead of actually addressing the fact that you were dead wrong?

    Check.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    So you can lie and/or just make random stuff up, but as soon as somebody calls you out on it you try to paint them as close minded or bigots instead of actually addressing the fact that you were dead wrong?

    Check.
    I've made dozens of legitimate points in this thread and you attempted to attack them using one source, which I pointed out your source has a history of over-reporting human rights abuses in the most democratic countries in which it is allowed to operate. Even the U.S. has protested allegations by Amnesty International. But if you think that you have some small victory because al-Jazeera and al-Jazeera International share the same name, and maybe are somehow distantly related, although you've yet to prove how exactly, go ahead and celebrate your small victory.

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