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    I think Manu should've used better judgement. Dirk right infront of the rim...what did Manu think he was going to do, block his shot?

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    Any good basketball coach questions his own decisions. That's how you improve. If you have a "well happens" at ude, how the do you make the right decision next time around?

    I'm not saying Pop SHOULD have taken him out, I'm asking should Pop have CONSIDERED taking him out. If that kind of a question justifies you calling me a pedofile, then you.
    Exactly. The number of dumb responses, either twisting what you origianly wrote or bashing you for asking the question.....

    "Those who can't, criticize."

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    I think Manu should've used better judgement. Dirk right infront of the rim...what did Manu think he was going to do, block his shot?
    You can't judge a player actions because he is trying to win a game. Manu thought at the most he could contest Dirk's shot. It just pisses me off that people are ragging on him. Let it go. You think that we would have had half a chance of winning if he didn't sink that three. Without him, we wouldn't have been in a position to win the game and for all the people who forget, the Spurs still had an overtime period to play and they didn't get it done. They had their chances, they just blew it. Tim must have missed like five or six tap ins when he should have grabbed the ball and dunked it. You can't fault Manu, or Tim, or Tony, or even Pop. They lost as a team, not as one individual.

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    What happens if Pop would've taken Manu out for that play and we STILL lost? This thread would've been led "Why the F!!! did Pop bench Manu on that play?!?!?!".

    Move on seriously, before you make a "Should Bowen have guarded Fisher on that play" thread.
    True. This thread is boring.


    People who are mad at this point, please call a therapist!.

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    Exactly. The number of dumb responses, either twisting what you origianly wrote or bashing you for asking the question.....

    "Those who can't, criticize."
    It's quite lovely.

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    You can't judge a player actions because he is trying to win a game. Manu thought at the most he could contest Dirk's shot. It just pisses me off that people are ragging on him. Let it go. You think that we would have had half a chance of winning if he didn't sink that three. Without him, we wouldn't have been in a position to win the game and for all the people who forget, the Spurs still had an overtime period to play and they didn't get it done. They had their chances, they just blew it. Tim must have missed like five or six tap ins when he should have grabbed the ball and dunked it. You can't fault Manu, or Tim, or Tony, or even Pop. They lost as a team, not as one individual.
    "Don't blame Manu"...

    But it's ok to say 'Tim should have dunked it'? Wtf kind of logic is that. For starters Tim is hurt. You think he wouldn't dunk it if he could? The guy was on a table for 2 hours after the game (so I hear) taking treatment for exaustion.




    Sidenote: God forbid it was Tony Parker who committed that foul. This city would be ripping him apart.

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    [SIZE=3]People who are mad at this point, please call a therapist!.
    Agreed.

    What's funny is, I just asked a logical question...I'm not even mad. But people who are replying to defend Manu are the ones getting mad. Did you have a specific therapist in mind for them?

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    I can't believe Dirk made that layin even with Manu raking across his arm. That's Manu, and I'll take the good with the bad. Discussions like this don't piss me off, but second guessing does get old sometimes.

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    Hmmm....why would popovich bench manu, one of the 3 top players on the team, especially when he had no idead manu was going to make that mistake? It was a dumb move but he probably wouldn't have made that mistake any other day of the week.

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    Should Larry have taken Rasheed out for that other play?

    Point is, happens. Players make mistakes. If it wasn't for Sheed's mistake, maybe the Spurs win one less championship. If it wasn't for Manu's mistake, maybe the Spurs win one more championship...

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    Agreed.

    What's funny is, I just asked a logical question...I'm not even mad. But people who are replying to defend Manu are the ones getting mad. Did you have a specific therapist in mind for them?
    I was not talking about you, really
    My therapy is not to read post of people who are still angry for this anymore. We will see what happen next season.

    Relax.

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    Should Kori have banned pleasedon'tbanme before this post was made? discuss...

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    I was not talking about you, really
    My therapy is not to read post of people who are still angry for this anymore. We will see what happen next season.

    Relax.
    I know it wasn't for me, sweety.

    Twas' a joke.

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    Should Kori have banned pleasedon'tbanme before this post was made? discuss...
    I would go on a hunger-strike.

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    Agreed.

    What's funny is, I just asked a logical question...I'm not even mad. But people who are replying to defend Manu are the ones getting mad. Did you have a specific therapist in mind for them?
    A logical answer, then: if you have someone who habitually makes stupid mistakes, I think the only answer is to take them out. Manu has certainly made some, but I don't think I would say that he's the kind of player I would call a liability on plays like that in general. He just screwed up that time. It happens.

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    A logical answer, then: if you have someone who habitually makes stupid mistakes, I think the only answer is to take them out. Manu has certainly made some, but I don't think I would say that he's the kind of player I would call a liability on plays like that in general. He just screwed up that time. It happens.
    Well, it wasn't just that one time...he did in the Kings series too.

    The difference is that play was on offense, this was on defense where you're up by 3 points. You can afford to take him out on defense with a lead, but you can't afford to take manu out on offense when you need some production.

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    Well, it wasn't just that one time...he did in the Kings series too.

    The difference is that play was on offense, this was on defense where you're up by 3 points. You can afford to take him out on defense with a lead, but you can't afford to take manu out on offense when you need some production.
    Granted, it's not the only time it's happened. But it's not like he's one of those guys that makes you wince when he goes out on the court.

    I think if you put him in that same situation 10 times, and 6 out of 10 he doesn't do anything different from anyone else, 1 out of 10 he makes a crushing mistake (as he did), and 3 times out of 10 he does something unexpected and brilliant that ices the game, like stripping the ball from Dirk for the breakaway dunk.

    You could argue that the game was iced anyway without a brilliant play, so there's no reason for Manu to still be in there. But there was still some time left, so I'm not sure about that.

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    All I know is that if Pop were Jason McElwain's coach, he would have pulled him for shooting a three while they were up by 20.

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    It's a shame but Manu is going to be history in just a few yrs because of the way he plays and the fact he won't mend himself in the offseason (playing more ball for Argentina). Hopefully, Spurs will win 1-2 more les by the time Manu is forced to retire in his early 30's and this memory will be just that.

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    It's a shame but Manu is going to be history in just a few yrs because of the way he plays and the fact he won't mend himself in the offseason (playing more ball for Argentina). Hopefully, Spurs will win 1-2 more les by the time Manu is forced to retire in his early 30's and this memory will be just that.
    There is a lot of truth in what you say. I wonder if Heat fans have the same kind of morbid thoughts about Wade---he also goes all out on just about every play and sacrifices his body every game. I'm not sure if playing year round is good or bad for Manu---it's bad in that his body doesn't have a chance to mend, but it's good in that he is more in rhythm and he needs to be in rhytm to be consistent.

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