Now This Is Pathetic.............

[MrChug]

Manu's untouchable. Period.

[Bruno]

4-years, 62-million dollars? You can't see Ben Wallace having that kind of an impact on the Spurs?

Ben will be BYC : you can get Manu and Rasho for him even with a $62M/4 years trade.

It's better to pay Rasho Nesterovic and Nazr Mohammad a combined 12.2 million this season?

Pointless : Nazr won't be a Spurs next year.

Short memories. I remember a certain Spurs center making 14 million at 36-years-old, and that was five years ago.

Short memories. I remember Spurs giving that amount for a way better player than Wallace.

I wouldn't trade him straight-up for Manu, either

You can't trade Wallace. He isn't a Piston anymore.
Manu for Wallace is a steal for the Pistons because Ben Wallace is an unrestricted free agent.


In case Ben Wallace doesn't want to re-sign with Detroit and want to sign with Spurs, a fair trade can be :

Spurs trade Barry + Rasho + Rights to Scola + 2007 first round pick for Ben Wallace (S&T, $48M/4 years, $12M/year with no raise)

Pistons trade Ben Wallace for Rasho + Rights to Scola + 2007 first round pick

Charlotte trade nothing for Barry.

[polandprzem]

Charlotte trade nothing for Barry.

I'm sorry but

[furry_spurry]

In case Ben Wallace doesn't want to re-sign with Detroit and want to sign with Spurs...

Without Detroit's cooperation, Wallace gets the MLE.

[Bruno]

Without Detroit's cooperation, Wallace gets the MLE.

Except that Wallace can sign too with a team under the cap like Toronto or Chicago.
The way it works for an unrestricted free agent is quite different : it's either nothing or Spur's package.
See what Boston get for Walker to get a clue of UFA value in a S&T.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

NO

parker, ginobili, duncan = untouchable

that's why we won the le this year?

[Darrin]

You want Manu so bad you can taste it.

You know me so well.

Ben Wallace is my favorite player on the Pistons roster, and the system he's in - he's not being utilized. You'll notice that I've brought up Larry Brown and Gregg Popovich's relationship six or seven times. I don't want to see him go to the Bulls because I'd have to turn in my Ben Wallace fanclub card or my Detroit Pistons card, on top of which, I don't think he'd be very successful in Chicago. It reminds me of the Miami Heat's expectations of John Salley.

Also, Wallace would still be contending. I don't want him to play for a team that thinks making the Conference Finals is an achievement. I don't want him to join the contigent of exiled Pistons in New York. If he's going to leave the Pistons, I'd take a little comfort knowing that he'd go to a team that doesn't treat defense like a chore, and wouldn't be put-off by his quiet nature. Alabama is a hop, skip, and jump just like with Karl Malone when he considered the Dallas Mavericks a few years ago.

To be honest, I think Manu's a little erratic. He fulfills certain needs for this specific Pistons group, but I'm in no way drooling over Ginobili specifically.