“Not just another I hate Cuban thread”….

[ChumpDumper]

How bout guaranteed contracts????

Basicly a good idea. The length is the problem and that has ben addressed.

Age limit??? Who’s business is that all of a sudden??

The NBA's.

I guess you can show me where I said that about Cuban>???

Then why bring it up about Stern?

Why I would guess every owner could confess to some of that

None of them themselves in the media as much.

I don’t like people being fined because they say $tern and his employees are not doing a good enough job………

Cuban agreed to that that when he became an owner. Blame him.

I don’t like his pompous ass telling other people how to dress

I think some of the provisions of the code are silly, but what do you wear to work? If you don't have the luxury of working at home, chances are someone is telling you how to dress. I have less sympathy for millionaires who whine about having to follow rules virtually every other working Joe has to.

[ShackO]

I has ben addressed.???

In your opinion……..IMO it has a ways to go still...........

I guess you can show me where I said that about Cuban>???



None of them themselves in the media as much.

SO WHAT??? He can do what ever he wants just like you............ He wants to make an ass out of himself what business is that of yours????

Yea I know those poor millionaire just don't get no sympathy.......

[StylisticS]

Even still, not suggesting that the "no-call" is fair, because it really isn't. Leaves it up to the discretion of the ref which is unfair. Is there such a thing as a discreet foul--only one FT? Ermmm, no. Like AHF says, a foul is a foul is a foul, and they all should be called, even during the final moments. Gives no room for disparity and keeps players honest also.

Right, a foul is a foul is a foul. If Harris or Dirk fouled Wade at the end of game 5, call it, in which they did. But call it for other players as well. If Tim Thomas was driving and Wade did the exact same thing Harris or Dirk did to get the foul called on them, do you think they call a foul on Wade at that time in the game? There is a good chance that the answer is maybe NO. That's what I'm saying. They cater to the superstars instead of all players in the league. Be consistent with your calls. This is why the NFL and MLB trumps the NBA, IMO.

[ChumpDumper]

I has ben addressed.???

In your opinion……..IMO it has a ways to go still...........

That's your opinon. Whoopie. I never saw Cuban say anything about guaranteed contracts. It's pretty clear he likes giving them away.

None of them themselves in the media as much.

SO WHAT??? He can do what ever he wants just like you............ He wants to make an ass out of himself what business is that of yours????

I can comment on it if I have to watch it. If he doesn't want folks commenting on him he can STFU.

[miss paxton]

A foul is a foul, whether it happens two minutes into the first quarter, or with five seconds left in the game.

You all argue for objective officiating, but then want them to consider time left and the score at the end of the game when deciding whether or not to call something. Make up your damn minds.

I don't disagree with your first statement. However, there is usually an element of subjectivity in making those calls. I would be surprised if there was ever a possession wherein nobody committed a foul, but obviously not each and every foul is going to be called. What's the rationale for not calling fouls on every possession then? I mean, immediately when Game 5 ended, the ESPN crew was discussing whether the officials should make that call in that situation--it's not a new concept that fouls at the ends of games often go uncalled.

I don't know what the solution is. I wish I did, because in my ideal world there would be no need to discuss officiating.

[ShackO]

I never saw Cuban say anything about guaranteed contracts.


It's pretty clear he likes giving them away.I can comment on it if I have to watch it. If he doesn't want folks commenting on him he can STFU.

I never did either. Not sure what that has to do with anything……..

I think he likes folks commenting on him, good , bad or ugly…He certainly keeps a lot of people around here entertained……..

@ your place of employment will they fine or fire you if you voice your opinion and they don’t agree??

Under the conditions of your employment do you have a salary guarantee regardless of your job performance??

[Obstructed_View]

The fans dictate what they like about the NBA, and David Stern has, in my opinion, allowed the rules committee to make way too many changes to the rules in order to try to make the game more "fun to watch", while instead the game has gotten bogged down in technicalities and complaining. The officiating wasn't that way in the 80s because the rules were easier and the players didn't whine as much.

The NBA should do two things in my opinion to help the state of the game:

1. Crack down on all complaining to the officials during the game by players. Allow the coaches a small amount of leeway but less than they've gotten recently. Expect a few extra ejections in the first week of the season, but they'll get the message pretty quickly.

2. Declare a moratorium on rule changes for a period of time, perhaps three years, or require significantly more than a 2/3 vote by the board of governors to approve any new changes. There's very little doubt that NBA officiating was much better before they started tweaking the rules every single year, and everything now becomes a judgment call.

The NBA should have learned not to with the rules soon after the failed "closer three point line" experiment.

[mabber]

A foul is a foul, whether it happens two minutes into the first quarter, or with five seconds left in the game.

You all argue for objective officiating, but then want them to consider time left and the score at the end of the game when deciding whether or not to call something. Make up your damn minds.

I don't think we're arguing for objective officiating, we're (fans & players) just arguing for consistent officiating and the trend for years has been to allow the boys to play late in games. I'd be fine with whatever way they go as long as they stick to it. Both the foul call on Duncan vs. Dirk (forget which game) and the foul call on Dirk vs Wade in game 5 were calls that have normally not been made in those situations. Yes, they were fouls but the league had made the determination (years ago) to not call anything late in big games cuz they wanted the players (not the refs) to decide the game. I'm not blaming the refs for the loss to the Heat cuz if they had been consistent it was very likely that the Mavs don't even make it past the Spurs.

[Obstructed_View]

I don't think we're arguing for objective officiating, we're (fans & players) just arguing for consistent officiating and the trend for years has been to allow the boys to play late in games. I'd be fine with whatever way they go as long as they stick to it. Both the foul call on Duncan vs. Dirk (forget which game) and the foul call on Dirk vs Wade in game 5 were calls that have normally not been made in those situations. Yes, they were fouls but the league had made the determination (years ago) to not call anything late in big games cuz they wanted the players (not the refs) to decide the game. I'm not blaming the refs for the loss to the Heat cuz if they had been consistent it was very likely that the Mavs don't even make it past the Spurs.

The thing is that the rules favoring the offense are consistent. Your scoring power forward can take advantage of it, but don't be surprised when he is exploited, especially when he ends up on the perimeter in a mismatch.