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Boston is going to get at least 1 very good player plus a very high pick or a boatload of draft picks or two very good players for him. Paul played the best ball of his career the second half of last season when his team was out of it so he definitely aint forcing anyone's hand. Plus his stock is at an all time high because of how he played. VC forced that trade by completely and utterly quitting on his team. Besides even with that it was the worst trade I have ever heard of. Waiting for that to happen again is like finding $200 on the ground somewhere and showing up every day waiting for $200 to appear again.
I know...
There had been discussion of Nene plus some from Denver. I'd take him over anybody on the Spurs' roster.
You could definitely pull Rashard Lewis plus a Nick Collison, at least, from Seattle.
You could get a thousand young potential stars from Portland.
You could get Shawn Marion, maybe.
Andre Kirilinko, I'm sure.
Chicago would probably send Deng, Nocioni, and/or a package of some good young players. Maybe even Deng + Gordon.
ALL OF THESE ARE MUCH BETTER THAN THE EXPIRING CONTRACTS/SCRUBS GIFT BASKET THE SPURS COULD SEND.
DId you just pull a quote out of context? What the ?
Who? Who do they get? Who?
Which team is this?
What team has 1 very good player, a high pick or a boatload of draft picks?
Furthermore...this draft sucks, and if they don't get the pick this year, Pierce himself is going to make sure it's not a high pick next year.
If they get a "Very good player", chances are he's going to be very well paid, defeating the "blow up the team" aspect of trading Pierce. Why not just keep Pierce? I think the entire supposition of this thread is that Boston is starting over. If they're not, then they're not trading Pierce. If they are, then they probably won't be wanting any Star contracts or long contracts in return.
Who's saying Boston is blowing up the team?
Oh well, I should've first posited Rashard Lewis as a potential target. Seattle ownership is ing about $ and Lewis isn't their franchise. They'd be a prime candidate for cap relief plus getting back younger (& cheap) prospects.
Last edited by SPARKY; 06-25-2006 at 11:29 PM.
boston hates spurs because they got tim duncan
so why talk about this
It's been the rumor for over a year that they would if they didn't make the playoffs. That's kind of the premise of this thread. They weren't even really close, finishing 7 games out of 8th.
And you also evidentally take a lot of LSD too...
I wouldn't take Nene over Oberto at this stage of the game. You do realize he destroyed his knee last season don't you? And he wasn't that good to begin with.
?????You could definitely pull Rashard Lewis plus a Nick Collison, at least, from Seattle.
That's not a good deal...Rashard Lewis can't do where winning is concerned...and makes a ton of money.
Oh yeah...you just know Danny Ainge is in love with Portland players.You could get a thousand young potential stars from Portland.
Um...since the Suns would be trading him for cap space...no you couldn't.You could get Shawn Marion, maybe.
Utah likes whitey more than Boston...and Kirilenko is younger. So no you couldn't.Andre Kirilinko, I'm sure.
Why would either of those teams want to do an interconference trade like that?Chicago would probably send Deng, Nocioni, and/or a package of some good young players. Maybe even Deng + Gordon.
Ainge aint trading Pierce to the Bulls...I can gurandamntee you that.
#1. They aren't all better.ALL OF THESE ARE MUCH BETTER THAN THE EXPIRING CONTRACTS/SCRUBS GIFT BASKET THE SPURS COULD SEND.
#2. There is absolutely no reason for any of those trades to be done other than maybe Seattle and Chicago...and the only one that actually improves the Celtics talent is the Chicago trade...
Yet I came up with all of them in a space of five minutes, off the top of my head. All would have filler to make them more attractive.
And spitting them out there, they are far better than any Spurs package.
I quit.
I'm nominating this thread for Worst Thread of the Year. It may not win, but it's certainly up there.
I forgot Veal.
So that's $24-29 million of creamy white goodness til '09. Add all the RFAs they'll have to sign that last year even when Pierce could be gone, cap space doesn't look to be a very realistic goal.
How about good old fashioned payroll reduction?
Exactly. Well let me edit that Portland doesn't have a thousand young stars but you could probably get Wallace and Okafor from Charlotte for him and they could absorb his salary as they are under the cap. Much better deal also. Among thousands of others.
Capwise they are looking ok for the near future. I'm not sure if sending away the only reason to pay to see Celtic games the past 8 years is something ownership would look forward to. I think they hem and haw about this every season, but just can't bring themselves to pull the trigger. They're in a real no man's land.
They've sucked for some time now and there's still a baseline of support for the team.
Right. Because of Pierce.
IF you were Charlotte why would you trade Okafor for Paul Pierce? Pierce isn't a franchise player.
If you wre Utah why would you trade Kirlilenko for Paul Pierce? Pierce isn't a franchise player..And Kililenko has more of a future...
If you were Phoenix and you are trying to cut payroll to resign Diaw, why would you trade Marion for Paul Pierce? And Marion is better anyway.
I mean you guys act like the other teams are all lining up to get him...
He's not a franchise player, he carries a big contract.
Why?
Again, the only deals ya'll have mentioned that makes sense are the Chicago and Seattle deals...
Some of the trades you guys are coming up with are stupider than Nazr and Barry for Pierce.
Motivation?
How about the ability to turn one great player into 4 cheap and potentially good ones...
Where would Scola, Javtokas and Mahnimi go in this draft?
Danny Ainge is a team kind of guy...not a Superstar kind of guy....
The Spurs need Ben Wallace. Ben Wallace needs the Spurs.
Then sign Claxton and some other big and win another championship.
Um....they aren't better from the perspective of the other teams...
In fact some of those trades you suggested were incredibly stupid on the part of the other teams.
You seem to think that Boston wants to tread water...
Which teams have the picks you mentioned? Orlando? Who else?
I ask you the same thing I asked Chump...
Where would Scola, Mahnimi and Javtokas go in this years draft?
Those kinds of trades for Pierce have been turned down before. It's not cut and dry -- how many Scola/Javtokas/Mahnimi jersey sales are you projecting?
Indeed. $15 mil per for a guy who can't get the team into the playoffs? In the EC? If they stay the course, he's not going to be looking for much of a decrease in his next contract when he's 31 and still has another 4 years or so left in him.
Dude you're not making any sense you just said before he was "a ing stud". Yes he is a franchise player did you see the way he played the second half of last year?
February:33.5 ppg 48.1% fg
March:27.6 ppg 46% fg
His numbers for the year: 26.8 ppg 47.1% fg 5.7 rpg 4.7 apg.
I suppose Barkley and KG aren't franchise players because they had some bad teams in their primes?
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