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    You make it sound like that's the only thing Barry brought to the table.
    Hmmm. Let's see. Barry was a 40% 3-pt FG shooter during his day in Seattle. However, I don't recall him shooting 40% behind the arc since he's been a Spur.

    Also, he ran the point for a good part of his last couple of seasons with Seattle, yet somehow Pop never found it necessary to utilize him in this role. Personally, I think he would have been fine running the point in a pinch.

    There's no question that Barry is an intelligent ball player with some diverse skills, yet he often plays too passively. Whatever he brought to the table, the fact is he's evolved into only a 3-pt shooter only at this point in his career - like it or not.

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    dirk quickness????whatttt are u kiddng me?? he's a in flukes!!!

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    you really should post more kalikot ... at least 10x per day.

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    trade beno for him and let barry play backup point

    barry knows the system to

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    We're talking Mark Cuban here as the owner of said team. Now word is he may be backing off a bit on making heavy financial commitments. However if the Mavs don't land Mike James, as has been rumored, or if they decide they want Speedy bad enough, Cuban will not allow himself to be outbid.
    Um, the point of my question was the fact that with Dallas being capped out, the most they could offer him is the MLE for the max # of years. Which, coincidentally, is the same offer that we could offer him.

    So, all this 'Cuban will not allow himself to be outbid' is moot, because he can't offer him anything more than we can.

    I swear we need a salary cap/CBA 101 thread, and all new posters should be required to pass a test on it before they can advance FA signing opinions or trade ideas.

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    LoL

    What NY paper took credit for that rumor, it's not so much a "rumor" as much as it is a "it almost happened before and probably still will".

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    Parker shot 42% at about JR's age. Last year he shot 55%. Learning shot selection and that you must have both a mid range game and a finishing touch at the rim is part of the maturing process of a player. JR is 20. I'd be surprised if he DID have any kind of shot selection. He has two things going for him: He's as athletic as they come and he can dial in from downtown with ease. Put those two together and you can have one of a SG.

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    Um, the point of my question was the fact that with Dallas being capped out, the most they could offer him is the MLE for the max # of years. Which, coincidentally, is the same offer that we could offer him.

    So, all this 'Cuban will not allow himself to be outbid' is moot, because he can't offer him anything more than we can.

    I swear we need a salary cap/CBA 101 thread, and all new posters should be required to pass a test on it before they can advance FA signing opinions or trade ideas.
    I haven't passed that test, but...

    Isn't the general idea if you go over the cap you end up paying luxury tax? So wouldn't the point be that Cuban is willing to pay the tax, and the Spurs aren't? In effect, letting Cuban "not be outbid"?

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    I haven't passed that test, but...

    Isn't the general idea if you go over the cap you end up paying luxury tax? So wouldn't the point be that Cuban is willing to pay the tax, and the Spurs aren't? In effect, letting Cuban "not be outbid"?
    Word is that he's not willing.

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    Yeah Speedy is gonna take a little more money to be a 3rd string point guard. Besides even Cuban isn't stupid enough to break the bank for a third string point as re-signing Terry is their #1 priority. With the way Terry played most of the playoffs, combined with Cuban's deep pockets, it looks like he will definitely be back. Plus Harris the backup point is under contract too. Makes zero sense.

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    Um, the point of my question was the fact that with Dallas being capped out, the most they could offer him is the MLE for the max # of years. Which, coincidentally, is the same offer that we could offer him.

    So, all this 'Cuban will not allow himself to be outbid' is moot, because he can't offer him anything more than we can.

    I swear we need a salary cap/CBA 101 thread, and all new posters should be required to pass a test on it before they can advance FA signing opinions or trade ideas.
    I see your point and Dallas is already in luxury tax .

    Even still, that's still no reason for you to come across like an "asshole" in making your point.

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    Trade Barry for JR, PLEASE!!!
    Heck No! Spurs need Barry!

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    Yeah Barry really stepped it up against Dallas, LETS KEEP HIM!!!!


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    Yeah Barry really stepped it up against Dallas, LET ME EAT HIM!!!!
    Thats' more like it.

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    beno stepped up so much against mavs to

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    Nazr and Rasho were Twin Towers like also. Dominated the paint.

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    Heck No! Spurs need Barry!
    I'd rather have a 20 YO apprentice 3rd string SG than a 34 YO veteran 3rd string SG.

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    Hey George W errrrrrr Sa210

    why dont you post under your real name and say it like a man chicken ?

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    trade beno for him and let barry play backup point

    barry knows the system to
    Hornets don't need another PG if Speedy stays. Besides, thats a very weak bid for a pretty strong trading commodity. With the weak class of free agent off guards, Barry is about the cheapest the Spurs could wrestle him away from OKC.

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    Hey George W errrrrrr Sa210

    why dont you post under your real name and say it like a man chicken ?
    LoL

    Somebody discovered IP checks.

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    Somebody discovered IP checks.
    Or bad guessing....

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    or knows someone that knows a guy that knows a guy, that can tell me this stuff.

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    --who may also be a bad guesser. Anything's possible.

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    Highly doubtfull this person is a bad guesser.

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    We could make three different trades with N.O. (actually, one trade at all, but three consierin NBA rules about E. Williams).

    P.J. Brown (last year of contract and, probably, of an NBA career; has expressed interest to play for a contender in his last year) for a sign and traded Mohammed (N.O. is starving for a legitimate center and Moha is the best the market could offer...this trade, is clearly in N.O. advantage and makes the more money possible for Nazr...at least what S.A. was available to give him last year - 7 million range).


    J.R. Smith (with Byron re-signed, no way he stays there...the earlier he's traded the best) for Beno Udrih I see that trade as even, considering that both players, in their respective role, as played quite good when given decent time...


    S. Claxton sign and traded (wants to go out of N.O., is a free agent and has expressed interest in coming back to S.A.) for E. Williams.
    This trade is clearly in advantage of S.A. but, given the other trades on, it makes sense for both...

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