You mean the first round where LeBron averaged 36, 8 and 6? Yeah, Jeffries looked like a good defender out there at times, but he's playing on the worst defensive team in recent memory. Brent Barry could go to that team and be a top two defender.
Just 36 against one of the worst defenses in the NBA....that's a ing miracle.
I wasn't saying he's the best defender on his team, that would be stupid...I was saying he defended Lebron well. Guarding one of the 3 best players in the NBA as well as anybody else has so far this season...that's an accomplishment, whether your teammates suck or not.
If it's not for Jeffries D I bet Lebron averages over 45 in that series. Nobody could hold him.
I just watched game 4 of the 2002 semis on NBA TV during the playoffs a month ago that's when the announcers said Daniels preferred coming off the bench. Didn't like the pressure of being a starter. Incidentally, that was the game where I punched a hole in the wall of the ty apartment complex I was living at the time because Danny Ferry (Danny ing Ferry!!) was taking shots at the end of the the 4th quarter of a close game.
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Jefferies is a decent defender and good finisher on the fast break. He just can't score at all so I wouldn't want him. Maybe if he was a really great defender and on the all defensive team. But he isn't.
Jeffries would be nice as a bench 3/4. Having some size at the 3 on occasion would be nice. I'm not sure about the Bowen comparisons just yet.
I heard Ernie Grunfeld(sp), Wiz president of bball operations, on the John Thompson Show this evening and he stated that the Wiz want to and plan on re-signing Jeffries. He didn't mention anything about a potential contract (because he can't), but that Jarvis Hayes and Jeffries are an intregral part of their plan.
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Yeah, playing the FA game is not the way to add players.
Youd think we and the Spurs would've learned that after 2003.
Realisticly, what good defenders that can also score are available? Teams aren't just going to give us great players we have to find diamonds in the rough like PHX did with Diaw. Will Jeffries be next years Diaw? who knows but i'd rather take a chance on a young kid then go into next season with what we had on the bench this season.
No. Jeffries is a limited BB player while Diaw has always been a talented player.
you knew that even though Diaw was stuck at the end of the Hawks bench?
Bruno?you knew that even though Diaw was stuck at the end of the Hawks bench?
Yes.
Not in the NBA, he hasn't. He was viewed as a washout until a change of scenery and some PT showed his worth.
Diaw's numbers, when he was playing Jeffries type minutes, were worse, like 4.5/4.5.
Yes.you knew that even though Diaw was stuck at the end of the Hawks bench?
Diaw had troubles with his coach at Atlanta and was a bad fit for this team, Jeffries isn't in the same situation at all.
You can't say, we will trade for Jeffries because his stats are as bad as Diaw's stats in Atlanta.
Jeffries' stats were BETTER in limited minutes than Diaw's were.
Do you say that we should take Jeffries because he has better stats than Diaw in Atlanta ?
In similar minutes, yes, that's what I'm saying. The situations, personality wise, may have been different, but neither was getting burn.Do you say that we should take Jeffries because he has better stats than Diaw in Atlanta ?
Neither one of them got a real chance with their drafting teams. I think Jeffries made more of his limited minutes than Diaw did, and didn't have any problems with the coaching staff, either.
To sum up your thought (let me know if I'm wrong) :
Diaw sucks when he was a Hawks, Jeffries had slighty better stats than Diaw in Atlanta.
Now, Diaw is great with Suns so Jeffries will be great with his news teams ???
I don't get your logic at all :
Do you realize that you can find tons and tons of average players with better stats than Diaw with Atlanta : Does that mean that they all will be great ?
Do you realize too that Diaw and Jeffries are quite different ?
Jeffries is tougher than Diaw.
He's also longer and doesn't need the ball in his hands. I'd love to land him on this team.
Not neccessarily "will", but definitely "could be". He has the skills. I understand your love for Diaw, since he is French, but realistically, his 13/7 aren't that tough a target to hit for someone as talented as Jeffries if he gets some minutes.Now, Diaw is great with Suns so Jeffries will be great with his news teams ???
My love for Diaw
I just don't see Jeffries as a 13/7 players. He can get 7 boards with playtime but I don't see him getting 13 points : he is a very limited player on the offensive end. I just don't see Jeffries as a very talented player, his main qualities to me are that he is long and he is a clever guy.
BTW, what make Diaw's year great is that he is a 13/6/6 player . 13/6 aren't great stats.
Well, in reality, the 13 and the second 6 are inflated by a system that puts a premium on getting up quick shots in volume. Whether you're doing the shooting, the passing or clearing the glass, you get more chances. If Diaw played on the Spurs, it would probably be more like 10/5/3.My love for Diaw
I just don't see Jeffries as a 13/7 players. He can get 7 boards with playtime but I don't see him getting 13 points : he is a very limited player on the offensive end. I just don't see Jeffries as a very talented player, his main qualities to me are that he is long and he is a clever guy.
BTW, what make Diaw's year great is that he is a 13/6/6 player . 13/6 aren't great stats.
Don't get me wrong. I LIKE DIAW. I just think that Jeffries has a chance to break out. He won't get the assists, but will probably board better.
Look at Jeffries stats at the end of the season when he was getting solid minutes: 9.1/5.5/2.5 and shot over 50%. i think he can improve upon that even more on a team like the spurs
washington post
We could kill two birds with one stone if we can swing a deal for Haywood and Jeffries for maybe Barry and Oberto.The Wizards have 12 players under contract for next season and would like to lock up a 13th in restricted free agent guard Jared Jeffries . Free agency opens today, and the Wizards have the r ight to match any offer made to Jeffries, who has averaged 6.1 points and 4.8 rebounds in 256 career games.
According to a league source, several teams are interested in Jeffries, including the Bulls, Rockets, 76ers, Spurs and Knicks. Free agents can sign contracts on July 12. Should Jeffries sign an offer sheet, the Wizards would have seven days to match. Jeffries earned just under $2.8 million last season.
"We're approaching free agency with an open mind," said Jeffries' agent, Andy Miller .
The Wizards have $49 million in salary committed for next season (the salary cap will be set on July 29) and President of Basketball Operations Ernie Grunfeld has given no indication that the team will be a major player in free agency. The Wizards will have the mid-level exception (about $5 million) available.
It will also be an intriguing summer for center Brendan Haywood , whose relationship with coach Eddie Jordan disintegrated last season. Haywood averaged 7.3 points and 5.9 rebounds in 23.8 minutes and was replaced in the starting lineup twice.
"I've indicated to Ernie that we would like to see Brendan and Eddie sit down and work those issues out, but so far that hasn't happened," said Miller, who also represents Haywood. "At this point, I don't think the situation is productive for either party."
While Haywood would welcome a trade, Grunfeld believes Haywood can be an impact player for the Wizards this season. "Last year is behind us and we've put that behind us," Grunfeld said. "Brendan is working hard. . . . He's focused, he's committed and next year is a new season for everybody."
The Wizards' summer league squad will practice Monday through Wednesday, and will play in Las Vegas on Thursday through July 13 and in Long Beach, Calif., July 14-18.
First-round pick Oleksiy Pecherov will participate, but second-round pick Vladimir Veremeenko won't. According to his agent, Marc Cornstein , Veremeenko has commitments to the Belarusian national team and remains under contract to his team in the Russia Superleague.
Who the wants Barry and Oberto?
Jeffries is a good target, but we have nothing Washington needs.
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