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    Are you including Eric Williams?
    Yes.

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    I'm willing to put my 25 vbucks that Nazr is going to be resigned and will play better next year.

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    It works if we throw in Melvin Sanders to either team, or beno to Chicago. don't think I'd want to give up Beno at this point though, especially when we are tring to find a 3rd PG.

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    I like that trade...

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    I'm willing to put my 25 vbucks that Nazr is going to be resigned and will play better next year.
    I'm not so sure Nazr wants to come back. The Spurs will not overpay him, especially when we could have cap space next year, and with Ian being a possibility it is even less likely. If another team offers him roughly the same contract as the Spurs, he would probably bolt. I saw that look on his face in the playoffs, didn't really seem like he was looking forward t coming back.

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    We might be better off resigning Nazr and trying to trade him midseason, if he doesn't work out.

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    Bulls make bold move, but Hornets are being bolder
    By Marc Stein
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    They've managed to strip Detroit of its beloved Ben Wallace, but the Chicago Bulls can't quite claim to be the surprise team of this fledging NBA offseason.

    Especially not if the Bulls complete the trade they're discussing with the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets.

    NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com on Monday night that the Bulls were close to shipping Tyson Chandler to the Hornets for P.J. Brown and J.R. Smith.

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    That would rank as the third bold move by the Hornets in the space of a week, after years of criticism endured by Hornets owner George Shinn over his reluctance to spend.

    New Orleans/Oklahoma City commenced its summer makeover by offering Peja Stojakovic a five-year deal worth more than $60 million to entice the sharpshooting former All-Star to leave the Indiana Pacers. That was Saturday.

    On Sunday, Shinn followed the Stojakovic coup by sanctioning a three-year commitment worth more than $15 million to Memphis Grizzlies guard Bobby Jackson.

    If the Hornets and Bulls go ahead with the proposed deal, Shinn will absorb the remaining five years and $54 million on Chandler's six-year, $63 million contract signed last summer.

    The venerable Brown, who turns 37 in October, has only one season left on his contract at $8 million. If the swap goes through, as multiple sources expect -- and depending on whether other players are thrown in; Chicago's Malik Allen has been mentioned as a possible add-on -- New Orleans/Oklahoma City will have committed to well over $120 million in new contracts in a matter of hours.

    It would add up to the most unexpected outlay ever seen from Shinn, even more unexpected than the big contracts he awarded Baron Davis and Jamal Mashburn in the club's Charlotte days. Those moves were contract extensions. The Hornets have never been known for making offseason splashes such as these.

    Yet this deal holds obvious appeal on both sides.

    Hornets coach Byron Scott, himself the recipient of a three-year contract extension just before the draft, wants to play an up-tempo game and will inevitably see the more athletic Chandler, at 7-foot-1 and turning 24 in October, as a better fit than Brown alongside Rookie of the Year point guard Chris Paul, Stojakovic and power forward David West.

    The trade makes even more sense for the Bulls. They are unlikely to play two non-scorers together (Chandler and Wallace), and moving out Chandler's expensive contract for Brown's expiring deal will make it easier to absorb Wallace's four-year package, which is believed to be worth $60 million.

    Brown, furthermore, is regarded as one of the best locker-room influences in the league and, along with Wallace, would provide legitimate size ... as well as the veteran know-how lacking in Chicago since the breakup of Michael Jordan's Bulls after their sixth and final championship in 1998.

    The teams can't officially consummate a trade before July 12 and, as of late Monday night, they had not verbally agreed to the exchange. But the sides, according to various sources, were closing in on the stage of verbal agreement, with Shinn apparently prepared to sanction another long-term expenditure and the Bulls knowing they're unlikely to get a player in return for Chandler who helps them in as many ways as Brown.

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    PJ and Ben Wallace on the same front line...ouch.

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    Just FYI, I merged a couple JR Smith threads together and took out some repe ive posts.

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    Latest-- PJ Brown/JR Smith/ Macijauskas for Chandler/Allen


    Due to New Orleans and Chicago being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. New Orleans and Chicago had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    I'd be willing to bet the Spurs tried to get involved since those are the two Hornets we almost traded for in February, and the Spurs are still trying to trade Brent.

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    There has been speculation that a third team may have tried to get involved in this trade. Possibly neither team really wants each other's Smith and Allen. I checked this out and it actually works:

    SA trades Barry and gets JR Smith and Malik Allen
    NO trades Brown, JR Smth, and Macijauskas and receives Chandler and Barry
    Chicago trades Chandler and Allen and receives Brown and Macijauskas.


    Due to San Antonio, New Orleans, and Chicago being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. San Antonio, New Orleans, and Chicago had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    There has been speculation that a third team may have tried to get involved in this trade.
    Speculation by you, another blogger, or who?

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    Speculation by you, another blogger, or who?
    I read/heard a couple places that the Bulls don't want JR Smith in the deal so a third team might get involved.

    But I also heard that whatever is happening is a done deal and will be announced in the morning.

    Who knows.

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    Wonder who the 3rd team could be.

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    I read/heard a couple places that the Bulls don't want JR Smith in the deal so a third team might get involved.

    But I also heard that whatever is happening is a done deal and will be announced in the morning.

    Who knows.
    Hmm...well, that should be an interesting thing to wake up to.

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    This is another note regarding Chandler though:

    The Bulls believe they can revive the talks if they sweeten their offer of center Tyson Chandler and forward Luol Deng with recent first-round draft pick Tyrus Thomas, whom the Timberwolves are known to covet.

    A nucleus of Garnett, Wallace and Andres Nocioni on the front line coupled with Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich in the backcourt would immediately turn the Bulls into a legitimate championship contender.

    In the meantime, the Timberwolves would be able to build around a young front line of Chandler, Deng and Thomas, who was the second overall pick in the draft a week ago.

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    I read/heard a couple places that the Bulls don't want JR Smith in the deal so a third team might get involved.

    But I also heard that whatever is happening is a done deal and will be announced in the morning.

    Who knows.
    Thanks. I saw the comments earlier about the Bulls not wanting JR but, if it was a true sentiment (not sure) that didn't necessarily mean a 3rd team was involved yet. One could speculate.

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    Thanks. I saw the comments earlier about the Bulls not wanting JR but, if it was a true sentiment (not sure) that didn't necessarily mean a 3rd team was involved yet. One could speculate.
    The latest by the insider at Hornetsreport is that it's just JR and PJ for Chandler. No Allen or Arvydas. No 3rd team.

    We'll see.

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    If they got KG, it would be interesting to see the Bulls' payroll in 08-09.

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    of course there is no doubt that the Bulls will trade Chandler to minny as part of a trade for KG, before they commit to the Hornets trade.

    But if the Hornets trade goes ahead then i hope its the Nuggets who are the 3rd team but i highly doubt its them

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    when can the bulls trade JR after receiving him?

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    when can the bulls trade JR after receiving him?
    Alone, immediately. In a package, 2 months.

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    when can the bulls trade JR after receiving him?
    August 21st I think.

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    cool, thanks

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    If they got KG, it would be interesting to see the Bulls' payroll in 08-09.
    Everyone on that team must make the league min. Save for Big Ben's $12 mil or whatever.

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