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    If Scola is thinking about signing that, the Spurs better trade him now. I'd take a Suns' second round pick if the alternative is nothing.
    I think he will sign this extension if he doesn't play in nba next year : it's a lot of guaranteed money.
    nba is now (with Spurs or another team) or never for Scola.

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    Look all I'm saying the idea that next year he's going to drop all his demands and take $2 million a year is questionable at best and I don't know why everybody thinks that.
    I don't think that. I don't think he'll come to the NBA next year either. (As Bruno just pointed out, his contract isn't up next summer).

    Even last summer, I didn't think he'd ever be in a Spurs uniform.

    I don't get why he would be mad at the Spurs in all this though. The Spurs never promised him that they'd pay him whatever it takes to get him here. It's not the Spurs fault he has a buyout clause.

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    So why in the are you advocating the guy sitting out one year of prime salary earning in what is a limited time for a career just for the chance, not even a guarantee, of getting an NBA team worried enough about him to give him more than they think he's worth?

    It doesn't make any sense, and your argument about NFL players holding out for more money isn't a valid comparison.
    Players in all sports hold out or do not report. Alonzo Mourning, Jim Jackson missed half his rookie year, Kiki Vandeweighe his rookie year, Adrian Dantley in Utah, Rony Seikaly in Golden State, etc. etc.

    The idea that he is just going to accept $2 million a year next year is questionable at best. He might I could see it happening but it's not a given. Especially when the Spurs just seem to be saying you're getting this whether you like it or not.

    I never advocated holding out just said he wouldn't necessarily bow down and take whatever we decided to offer him next year. Why evryone assumes that is beyond me. I never advocated that just don't see why he would just totally cave next year.
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    The only person to blame for Luis Scola's problems is Luis Scola. He has no right to sign a ten year contract with a ridiculous buyout and then be pissed for the Spurs not ponying up to correct his stupidity.

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    If he has 2 years left on his deal it's all moot anyways. But if he thinks he's worth $4 million in the NBA he's not necessarily going to decide one day he isn't and just take whatever the Spurs offer. That's my whole point.

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    If he has 2 years left on his deal it's all moot anyways. But if he thinks he's worth $4 million in the NBA he's not necessarily going to decide one day he isn't and just take whatever the Spurs offer. That's my whole point.
    I still doubt he'd ever sit out a whole year and not play anywhere just on the small chance that he'd get a $4M NBA contract the following year.

    If NBA team thought he was worth $4M/year, then they'd be making a deal for him right now.

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    At this point, the only thing I'd fault the Spurs for doing is not renouncing Scola's rights and let him find his way into the league. Obviously this doesn't make basketball sense, but it does kill his chances of ever playing in the NBA.

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    I am still a bit curious as to whether Scola would do well in the NBA, but I've kind of lost my excitement for him. It's like having someone dangling a carrot out of your reach for a long time... eventually, you realize you're not going to get it and you lose interest. I'd like to see something finally come of the rights though.

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    Khryapa ended up being used by Nate more in the low post. His outside shot wasn't good enough to play on the wing for the Blazers. It took them a while to figure out where he likes to play and score...and that place is using his inside footwork and short-range game.

    I like a lot of things about his offensive skills but he's not proven to be a wing.
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    I'd bet the Spurs would trade Scola's right for a 2nd round pick. Maybe there isn't a team trying hard enough to get him either.

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    theres a reason a 16 year old kid got a ten year contract with a ridiculous buyout clause in the first place: dudes a stud. even if his game doesnt translate well to the NBA you are guaranteed he will adapt to the best of his ability and compete. So at the very worst your looking at a bench low post scorer with lots of hustle. theres plenty of teams that will risk 4million if thats the worst case scenario. I really find it hard to believe the spurs cant use him as trade bait.

    i think he would do really well on the bulls too. hinrich would feed him well and chandlers only good for D anyway, might as well put an offense only player next to him.

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    So at the very worst your looking at a bench low post scorer with lots of hustle. theres plenty of teams that will risk 4million if thats the worst case scenario.
    Really?

    Who?

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    At this point, the only thing I'd fault the Spurs for doing is not renouncing Scola's rights and let him find his way into the league. Obviously this doesn't make basketball sense, but it does kill his chances of ever playing in the NBA.
    Why do you fault the Spurs for not wanting to let go of a piece that could be a nice throw in for a trade?

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    theres a reason a 16 year old kid got a ten year contract with a ridiculous buyout clause in the first place: dudes a stud. .
    The only reason he signed that deal was because both him and his agent were ing idiots. Stud? Hardly.

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    Khryapa ended up being used by Nate more in the low post. His outside shot wasn't good enough to play on the wing for the Blazers. It took them a while to figure out where he likes to play and score...and that place is using his inside footwork and short-range game.

    I like a lot of things about his offensive skills but he's not proven to be a wing.
    He may not have the handle, but 34% from the arc isn't chopped liver. Even better if he has a post game. Dallas would be forced to have Dirk cover either him or Tim in the post. Not Dirk's game. He can also draw Dirk out to the arc and reduce his rebounding effectiveness. If they try to put one of their 6'6" 6'7" greyhounds on him, he punishes them in the post. Bonus.

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    The only problem with this discussion is that the Spurs are probably not even thinking about it.

    Dude's definitely a project though.

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    The only problem with this discussion is that the Spurs are probably not even thinking about it.
    You're probably right.

    Dude's definitely a project though.

    Anyone we get likely will be a "project"

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    how about we trade nazr+scolas right to suns for diaw+filler

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    Yeah, I'm sure the Suns will give up Diaw for our scraps.

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    Diaw is a stud. I can't wait to see he is able to do in the next couple of years.

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    the question is, will the suns give him max or anywhere between 8-10mill.

    i hope sum re team doesnt get involve in trade talks with them for marion to keep their payroll under 70mill.

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    Before the 06 NBA draft Scola was a top ten pick, according to some of you, now he's 2nd round table scraps? This forum moves fast.


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    This topic is exstatic's wet dream. Please move to the adult forum.

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    theres a reason a 16 year old kid got a ten year contract with a ridiculous buyout clause in the first place: dudes a stud.
    I bet the 10 year contract wasn't guaranteed on Tau's end. So my guess is that they would offer that deal to any kid with potential -- though a lot of kids wouldn't sign a deal with such obscene terms.

    If the kid goes nowhere, they cut him. If he blows up, they hold onto his rights forever.

    Actually, it reminds me of some of the record contracts bands sign.

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    No thanks. The guy is so hot and cold. One game he's going off for 10 and 10 with a couple of steals, next night he goes for 0 points, a board, and four turnovers.

    That's what happens when your minutes fluctuate. Can't do too well with 0 minutes, I was impressed with him from what I've seen.

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