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care to explain why
all of the sudden big baby has turned into shaq and steve nash!:
Shaq scores 9 points in the deciding game of the NBA Finals. He's well on his decline.
Zo and Payton finally get their championship rings. Both could retire. But, even if they come back, the same motivation is not there anymore.
Miami will still be one of the better teams, but I don't see them winning it all again. However, they definitely should be better than my Detroit Pistons next year.
And, Cant Be Faded saying goodbye to the Pistons as a rival in no way means they he thinks they were lucky. But, I can't speak for him and what he thinks.
SHAQ IS SCORING FEW POINTS MOSTLY BECAUSE HE IS IN A STAR STUDDED TEAM,YES HE MAY BE ON A DECLINE BUT HE IS SSTILL THE MOST DOMINANT CENTER IN THE NBA!!!!!AND THE PISTONS ARE OVER INDEED WHO IS GONNA SAVE EM TAYSHUN
Would Ben make more money off endorsements in Chicago? Maybe that was a factor in his thinking.
Sad to see the great Pistons dismantled.
I can't believe this happnened. Pistons lose in the EC semis next year.
Apparantly Mav Fans are to Spurs fans as Heat fans are to Piston fans.
Don't give Mav Fan that much credit. Mav Fan wishes he could be a Heat fan.
<----------- Can't wait to see the first offensive play "drawn up" by the Bulls for Wallace.
it was gonna happen...sorry but their fluke was over in the ECF!!!
I was going for the annoyance factor.
The Pistons can still make it out of the first round with ease IMHO. Billups, Prince, and Sheed should get them there. Beyond that, who knows.
IMO they are way to inconsistent to do this,they honestly need someone else that mr.lucky shot(billups)to advance...
No way the Pistons make the ECF now, they are a 5-8 seed next year, they won't even have home court in the first round.
RedLion you really need to cut down on the bull talking.
NO,because in that case we are the superior team,and pissed on fans are the ones that always annoy us with their stupid worthless excuses.
Thanks for 6 great years Ben. You came to our team and everyone scratched their head trying to figure out why in the we'd want you in the sign and trade w/ Orlando. You achieved far more than anyone would have ever given you credit for. Congrats on the big pay day! You deserved it!
I wish him the best.
But all in all, I find myself a little releived. I think this is actually the best thing that could have happened.
If Ben decided to stay at 4 / 49.6 we would have been strapped. Next year Sheed and Ben each would be recieving over 11 million. Rip would get 9. Tay should receive somewhere between 8-9?. Dice is looking at 6 Chauncey is going to be another 6+ guy. That's 52 million minimum. And that doesn't include our other 9 roster spots.
Ben is on the decline. He really was not worth the 48 offered by Dumars. It was mostly back pay for years of being played under value. That is not smart.
He is too one dimensional of a player for that much money. His stats have gone down for three consecutive years ( in Minutes, blocks, rebounds & free throw % ). Why should that trend stop now?
What happens in three years when he easily could average 6 points, 8 rebounds and 1 block? Is that a stat line that deserves 12 million?
It's sad to see him go. But a large part of me is quite happy.
Joe can hopefully get a big that can offer 15 - 20 minutes of decent play.
We will play Dice more. We'll utilize Davis (7 points and 9 boards in 30 minutes w/ Indy at the end of 2005). You'll see Jason Maxiell (Baby Ben) in the rotation. All 3 of those guys can give 20 minutes of GOOD play.
Will it be Ben Wallace defense? Of course not. But we are shifting to a new style of play anyways in the NBA. More offense, less defense. We've all seen it coming. Defensive rule changes & refs giving the superstar whistles.
One possible positive to this is that Sheed may play more at the center position now. He will be forced to be under the basket. His post game is awesome ... but he's relied too much on his perimeter skills. Now he will get the ball under the bucket.
And don't forget that we still have 4 of the "best starting 5" No way in do I think we're now all of a sudden a crap team. The East is not all that terrific. No reason why we can't get back to the ECF. Will it be tough? sure but I think you will see much more focus and determination form the other guys. Time to drop the iness and play ball.
It's too easy for those guys to rely upon Ben all the time. They KNOW Ben is back there defensively so they're not as worried when they let their guys get past them. They know they'll have to buckle down individually now.
I honestly feel that we are much better off for the future now. We may stumble at times this year, but I think we'll be fine.
Bens at ude and commentary about wanting the ball was getting on my nerves.
All this Ben left because of Flip is getting on my nerves.
Did he love Flip? Probably not. I'm sure he didn't see eye to eye with him all the time. But there is NO FREAKING WAY he left because he didn't like Flip. That is soo 4th grade. And by the slim chance that was his resoning, I'd tell him to get his baby ass out of the lockerroom. Ben is notorious for being a grump with his coach's . He argued with Carlisle and LB aswell. It's nothing new.
It's time for something a little new for the Pistons. I'm excited about this year. I trust Joe D to figure out a way to make us as compw ive as can be.
And I guess I can now say "I told you so" to Joe D about the stupid move of getting rid of Darko last year.
Oh, and good luck to you Ben on becoming an offensive threat in Chicago!!!!!
just saying the truth
Ben's going where the money's at. I didn't think he'd leave the organization that gave him the chance to be a star with nothing like this..it's just so wrong...hopefully Joe can pull something off and get Tyson Chandler.
Don't pay any attention to what the guy says. He's just a racist. He pretty much dumps on every white guy in the league, including Manu.
Your a good fan and Wallace's stay however it ended was a great one in Detroit. He helped them to a le and 2 finals visits. They were 3 mins away from repeating. It's a business. Wallace has to do what's best for him and his family. I think, that the Piston's set themselves up. I still think they screwed Carlise by not backing him up when the players started whining, they got Larry who got them straight enough to win it all and get close a second time but then let them know it's still a business by undercutting their 2005 season and being the story. Now with Flip things just aren't the same. I think Ben could see for himself that his team's front office would try to low ball him or at least low ball him in his own mind and he saw from past history that business is business. He was just following suit, and looking out for his best interests.
Nice post, Pistons<Spurs.
Your right, the rules have changed. Who was it that said evolve or die?
what order will these events happen:
McDyess breaks down
Rasheed's chode explodes
Billups jacks a three with 23 seconds left on the shotclock
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