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don't they make those computers in china?
You haven't understand what I've said.
If Duncan play with a legit center, none can defend against quick, perimeter oriented PF.
If Duncan play with a legit PF, none can defend on a dominant center.
Now just look at other teams : only Shaq and Yao are dominant center while there are a lot of quick, perimeter oriented PF.
In the 06 nba, Duncan should play at center and not at PF.
don't they make those computers in china?
okay
But I do not like the idea putting Tim on the center position. I know about the athletic PF's but still we have no one to put on the "PF atletic" spot. timvp would come up with Evans but to me, still Spurs need a center. Looks like the NBA has changed and the small ball is dominating cause of lack of true centers and it's beacause of MJ and youngsters at ute to be pro's as quick as possible (center position needs time to develop).
Why we need a center not a PF?
I don't know. Spurs won 63 games. I must to look up at the other teams.....
A frontcourts built with PF and a PF one is more and the other less athletic, in your opinin Tim should guard those less yes?
We will see in what directin Pop will go. We've got javtokas as a great supporter at the Center position, who else do we need.
Damn I had no concept on that one. I will come up with somethink better later maybe
Yeah, and I hear they have a secret trojan program installed that only kicks in when someone votes for center on the NBA all-star squad and secretly makes the vote for Yao.
Clever people.
1) Wallace sized players with skills that can shoot don't grow on trees.
2) There isn't anyone on the next rung down. Not anyone we could get this year at this point in time.
You can't play small ball against Dallas because Dallas doesn't play small. Center is 7', PF is 7'. I know Dirk is a weak 7', but even he can kill a 6'7" guy on the boards. We saw it happen.
You make a good point. But we already have some options on the team that have some mobility, and we really have nobody with size.
That's why I like the idea of bringing in a guy like Pollard and trying to fill out the lineup with someone in the Jumaine Jones mold. Pollard not only gives us the guy to body up Shaq and Yao, he gives us a guy to absorb punishment from a lot of the bangers out there. There still aren't all that many PFs that Duncan can't cover if he wants to.
Meanwhile, most quick teams still have at least one guy you can hide a slow defender against. For the ones that don't like Dallas and Phoenix, Javtokas and Bonner are possibilities for minutes, and with an athletic 3, we have a fallback option if we can't keep up.
your options are
zarko rad from portland
j O'neal from pacers
SAR who does he play for now kings?
R wallace from pistons demands trade now that he isn;t a wlalce brother
so they all cost alot of money and not many players we have to trade
personally I think ODOM woudl be the perfect player from what I saw at olympics. He was playing great while duncan was seating on bench with foul trouble.
in the end I think Ian might move from Center to a PF for the spurs
Ian Is In A Spur Uniform Yet
He Signed A Year Contract With Another Team
Maybe Next Year
I forgot I think we might have our PF
Denver wants to unload KMART the same Kmart that played with KiDD
hmm oddly I like it. Kmart surely has better hands then nazr
no thanks, he makes way too much money and can't shoot for .
That first sentence is like a quadruple negative, but the idea that Duncan would foul out in the first half is almost as stupid as your previous assertion that Dirk would average 50 points per game against the Spurs' conventional defense. The fact that you cite Duncan being in foul trouble even though it had nothing to do with the defensive matchups you keep referring to just shows that you don't know what the you are talking about.
That said, nobody has ever said that Bowen wouldn't cover Dirk. If you have Rasho or Nazr in the game to defend the rim, Bowen can actually stay on Dirk, which he was unable to do with smallball. The only way the Spurs lose that series is if Howard and Harris beat them by shooting jump shots. Fat ing chance. There is no man to man rule any more, and there's no illegal defense. Therefore the Spurs can keep a big guy down near the rim. , I'd rather have five defensive three second calls in a game than fifteen uncontested layups.
The system that you keep defending ing failed, dude. If it was the way to play the Spurs should probably have tried it sometime before the playoffs.
I'm not asking for small ball. Read my posts. I'd love to get a real strong and mobile PF. The problem, as you've noted, isn't that teams have small players--many of the new breed are as big as the old style center--as much as it is mobility and athleticism on the defensive end.
Standard centers, the slow-footed 7' behemoths that battled in the paint, are being superceded by big guys who have speed and mobility. Our matchup problems with teams like Phoenix (Amare and Diaw) and the Mavs (Dirk and Howard) are gonna get worse if we keep on thinking in terms of the old style centers. We had a couple of those in NAZR and Rasho and in the end the coaches decided they couldn't cut it against the new breed of BIGs at forward.
Dirk has always played more as a SF, using his speed on big opponents and his height to shoot over small one. Dirk is a whole different proposition and we haven't really found anyone to defend against him, but no one is going to stop a player of his caliber every game. He may become more of a post player under Avery, but that just means we need a good big mobile PF.
Someone will have to be found to defend against their other big forward as well. If Bruce can do it, fine.
Except the Spurs lost, and it wasn't because of the new breed of forwards. It was a bad decision by the coaches.
If the roster stayed like it is today, we have the following forwards who will be 30 or more years old during next season: Oberto, Horry, Williams, Finley, Bowen, and Duncan.
That's virtually every forward or center we have with the exception of NAZR (29) and he's probably gone anyway and Bonner.
We need an infusion of younger bigs and I think that means getting some mobile and athletic guys at 6'8" or better. Bonner was a start and signaled that the FO and POP see the need and are moving forward (pun intended).
Let's have some more trade or free agent possibilities.
Obstructed view is supposed to be a nickname, not a permanent mental condition.
If you love the old style centers so much and want to go back to that style, then come on with it. Tell us who we can get and how much time he'll play there when we already see Tim working into that slot.
I like how everyone is giving up on his outside game. His foot has been injured the past two years, that affects your jumping ability. His jumper was fine at the beginning of the season (in fact, it was better than before nearly) but once he got PF it went away. If his foot is finally healthy next season I bet the banker and everything will be back.
The only stupidity I see here are your basketball takes. Anyone with half a clue knows that the Spurs couldn't start their regular season lineup against the Mavs and hope to win that series.
We can start with PF - Duncan and Center Oberto
Oberto can play 20 minutes, and in the other 28 Duncan is the Center
This thread cracks me up because AHF assumes that if Duncan plays center we'll see the version of small ball that we saw in the WCF. That's simply not true. It won't be Finley or Horry playing PF.
If Duncan plays center, which he's done a lot in the last two years anyhow, then the Spurs would pick up an athletic PF to play along side of him.
I've always thought this would be the best route anyway, just because the other centers out there suck and Spurs need to get more athletic anyway.
I'd rather have Duncan and PF than a bad center and Duncan upfront.
Duncan, Gooden, Bowen, Manu, TP...
Jav, Bonner, ?, finley, snow
We should try and get gooden and snow from cavs..
Well, you certainly qualify for the "half a clue" crowd.
Better than none.
I don't give a what position you officially call what Duncan plays, as long as there is someone that can actually play defense and block shots on the floor with him. To paraphrase what Kori said, if you are relying on Robert Horry to be the other big defender you are ed. I'd be happy with Mahinmi or Pryzbilla or Javtokas, but I wasn't particularly unhappy with Nazr or Rasho either. Call them fours or call them fives. Just make sure you play them in the ing playoffs.
Except that TP did have open jumpers. He didn't take or hit enough of them for the Mavs to respect his jumper. TP dominated during the regular season by penetrating and creating havoc in the paint. The '06 Spurs are not the same team without TP marauding the lane. In TP's defense, he was hurt and banged up. If he hits his normal shooting percentage of 55%, the Spurs win the series. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to attack the basket. Against the Mavs, he hit 54-128 in field goals which is a 42% clip. With Manu struggling with his three point shot in the first three games, the Spurs didn't have anyone penetrating into the paint on a regular basis.
I don't think you can use that blueprint against the Mavs. The Spurs took the first two games in Phoenix without Joe Johnson. The series was pretty much over at that point.
With Joe Johnson, the Spurs were 2-1 letting Amare get his. The '06 Mavs also had a much deeper team than '05 Suns.
Thank you. I rest my case. The lady knows her basketball. That being said, although Bonner was a step in this direction, do you have any opinions on who else might be available within the cap and not some retread?
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