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    Was drafted #56 in 2001 by guess who, the San Antonio Spurs. An absolute steal back then, he was on his way to becoming the best defensive center in Europe when his motorcycle accident happened. It was questionable if he would ever walk again, much less play. But today, it's as if it never happened, Javtokas is the best defensive bigman in Europe. He has an NBA body and athleticism, a very good vertical leaper and he uses all these attributes to his advantage, especially on the defensive end. His offense is steadily improving, he's developed a nice hook shot that he's hitting with regularity and is good finisher around the basket. He can be erratic from the FT line and need a more consistentcy on his jumpshot from 15 ft out. He might be a better center than any current center San Antonio has, which considering the group (Mohammed, Oberto, Nesterovic) speaks for itself. The rich have options to become even richer.

    If he brings this over,


    Im sure everyone's ing about this past summer will be shelved.


    But Im sure something will happen to bring back cheap, horrible, terrible Spurs talk again.

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    Would you rather have him than any bigman option still on the free agent market?

    Give us some hope.
    You never know for sure, but let's put it this way... I didn't pay much attention to the other guys mentioned by Ludden. When I saw Vujcic's name, it most def' got me interested. I questioned it because I thought he was committed for another year.

    Offensively and rebounding-wise, I think he's better than Collins. He's more mobile than Magliore but I'm not sure about physicality comparisons. He's been on several televised games over the past few years, including Euroleague games, Eurobasket 2005, FIBA Championships and Olympics. I'm sure there are some of our European members who have seen him play more often and could give a good perspective on him.

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    If they get him and pocket the rest of the money, they'd be waiving a white flag before the season begins.


    of course....

    Too bad the Spurs don't have Ariza, and others in as high regard as you guys.

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    Of course.


    They have to trade for an all star.

    Yeah, I've been saying that right? Freaking idiot, never stop with your asinine remarks.

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    Wow just wow!! Well look on the bright side. At least Peter Holt saved up $$$ . This is ing pathetic...we got rid of our 2 centers which was soposed to be a good thing but it turns out putting us in a worse situation . Should of signed the available bigman Pryz when you had the ing chance. Now we are looking overseas for scrubs who are probably worse then what is left in the NBA market.

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    You never know for sure, but let's put it this way... I didn't pay much attention to the other guys mentioned by Ludden. When I saw Vujcic's name, it most def' got me interested. I questioned it because I thought he was committed for another year.

    Offensively and rebounding-wise, I think he's better than Collins. He's more mobile than Magliore but I'm not sure about physicality comparisons. He's been on several televised games over the past few years, including Euroleague games, Eurobasket 2005, FIBA Championships and Olympics. I'm sure there are some of our European members who have seen him play more often and could give a good perspective on him.
    I'm sure I've seen him play. In fact, I'm starting to remember more now that I'm watching some highlights of him.

    This guy and Javtokas could perhaps hold down the center position. Then the Spurs can go out and try to fill another void with the rest of the MLE.

    I just don't know how smart it is for a championship contender going into a season with two rookies at center ... even if they are experienced. We saw with Oberto that it takes a while to adjust.

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    Freaking idiot,
    Keep up with the lovely comments sunshine....


    Wow just wow!! Well look on the bright side. At least Peter Holt saved up $$$ . This is ing pathetic...we got rid of our 2 centers which was soposed to be a good thing but it turns out putting us in a worse situation . Should of signed the available bigman Pryz when you had the ing chance. Now we are looking overseas for scrubs who are probably worse then what is left in the NBA market

    baaa baaa


    Any more original thoughts?

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    What does T Park think the Spurs need to do this summer? If they do nothing more than sign some scrubs to fill out the roster, does he believe that the Spurs can win the championship next year?

    Questions.

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    baaa baaa


    Any more original thoughts?
    Go ahead and try to defend this that they are doing. Why dont you do that "I wont post for a year" in this situation and MAYBE it will do something about us having issues finding a ing center

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    I just don't know how smart it is for a championship contender going into a season with two rookies at center ... even if they are experienced. We saw with Oberto that it takes a while to adjust.
    Very true about the time it takes to adjust and familiarize. That's a tough call, but considering what we've seen from Collins and Magliore the past year or two...Vujcic might not be much of a gamble if the price is decent.

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    Go ahead and try to defend this that they are doing. Why dont you do that "I wont post for a year" in this situation and MAYBE it will do something about us having issues finding a ing center


    aww pulls the "I wont post for a year" gem.

    Looosah.


    What does T Park think the Spurs need to do this summer?
    Sign Javtokas.

    Sign whoever else the Spurs think is good enough to play for the team.

    I obviously have way too much faith in Pop and Co.


    For people around here that lauded this as such a great front office, and league wide is considered one of the best, it sure gets on alot by the fans of this team.


    Whatever.

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    Very true about the time it takes to adjust and familiarize. That's a tough call, but considering what we've seen from Collins and Magliore the past year or two...Vujcic might not be much of a gamble if the price is decent.
    He wouldn't be too cheap, right? Garbagosa or whatever got $4M a year and this guy is supposedly better.

    Could it cost the whole or most of the MLE to get him?

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    one thing the the spurs have is now everyone does not think they have to be david robinson they just want them to be better then nazr

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    Sign whoever else the Spurs think is good enough to play for the team.
    Interesting theory. Luckily the Spurs have failed at that over the years in regards to Jason Kidd, Chris Webber, etc.

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    but considering what we've seen from Collins and Magliore the past year or two..

    But but but but,

    the Spurs HAVE to get them!!!!

    I MEAN, they are LOST without getting the huge studs that are Jamal Magloire and Jarron Collins.

    I mean Magloire, is soooo great, theyre, uh, wanting to trade him after 1 year, from a team that is considered HORRIBLY short on PFs.


    That OBVIOUSLY is not a warning sign, at ALL!!

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    one thing the the spurs have is now everyone does not think they have to be david robinson they just want them to be better then nazr
    The other thing is that Rasho and Nazr would probably be the two best centers if they played in Europe. Rasho was a Euroleague phenom once upon a time.

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    Interesting theory. Luckily the Spurs have failed at that over the years in regards to Jason Kidd, Chris Webber, etc.
    Interesting.

    Do you have a pen name you write for the Express News with?

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    Interesting.

    Do you have a pen name you write for the Express News with?
    Yeah Mike Fingers O' Joy.

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    Another stiff to lose resources getting rid of his contract. Fact is Spurs front office hasn't made a stellar move since drafting Parker five years ago.

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    I would be hesitant to go into the season with the center spot manned by 3 players in Vujcic, Javtokas and Oberto who may or may not be able to put up any kind of numbers in the NBA. I'd feel more comfortable with someone like Collins, Wright, Butler, etc. here in one of the spots. They aren't great, but you know they aren't going to completely bust if they are giving 20+ mpg.

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    nteresting theory. Luckily the Spurs have failed at that over the years in regards to Jason Kidd, Chris Webber, etc.
    For all the failures there have been the Jerome Kerseys, Stephen Jacksons, Manu Ginobilis, Kevin Willis,


    As many failures, there have been success with this front office.


    Carry on with the bas the franchise chant though.

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    you lost faith in Mahinmi already?




    keeping manu, tp and duncan were big

    being they are in sa, texas

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    I would be hesitant to go into the season with the center spot manned by 3 players in Vujcic, Javtokas and Oberto who may or may not be able to put up any kind of numbers in the NBA. I'd feel more comfortable with someone like Collins, Wright, Butler, etc. here in one of the spots. They aren't great, but you know they aren't going to completely bust if they are giving 20+ mpg.

    True.

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    Another stiff to lose resources getting rid of his contract

    If he turned the ball over at half court and wet his pants at the sight of a 36 year old defensive point guard, youd laud him as the second coming.

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    But but but but,

    the Spurs HAVE to get them!!!!

    I MEAN, they are LOST without getting the huge studs that are Jamal Magloire and Jarron Collins.

    I mean Magloire, is soooo great, theyre, uh, wanting to trade him after 1 year, from a team that is considered HORRIBLY short on PFs.


    That OBVIOUSLY is not a warning sign, at ALL!!
    Sorry but that post makes no sense. First of all Magloire is a center. Secondly he averaged almost 10 rpg this season. He might be a little fat, but he's not a bad player. The Spurs have been trying to get him, but haven't been able to put together a package the Bucks want.

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