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they signed manu to the lle in '02.
Miami is offering Zo $2.5M. The Spurs come in trying to Out-Whataburger the Heat with a giant $3M offer.
they signed manu to the lle in '02.
That's a cop out...
Not both.
Miami is offering Zo $2.5M. The Spurs come in trying to Out-Whataburger the Heat with a giant $3M offer.
at the "Out-Whataburger" reference. Good one.
I'm going to just refuse to get worried about it until it's all over.
Signings just started today, so it's far from done.
And yes ... I just quoted myself.
I got sleep last night.
Miami is offering Zo $2.5M. The Spurs come in trying to Out-Whataburger the Heat with a giant $3M offer.
exactly. man if you were willing to pay nazr or pryzbilla $5 mil per why not give mourning that for 2 years? man you might face miami in the finals, why not weaken them as a potential rival?
Very astute.
In 2004, they brought in Barry for 4 years - over Jax or Hedo who got 5 elsewhere.
Then in 2005, they brought in Oberto and Finley on 3 year deals.
I think they only want to give Javtokas a 2 year deal- hence part of the delay- and are going after someone like Elson who will take 2 years, as well. It is also part of the reason Scola can't get signed.
Okay, then let's assume Scola has no value to the team whatsoever, and just focus on Javtokas and Mahinmi, who look like they could develop. They are still in the Spurs' plans. That was my point, and it's still valid. People think the Spurs aren't doing anything just because they expect the activity to come from the same places that Portland's activity comes from, but that's only if you want Portland's team. I don't.
Sorry, they needed cap space for both of them plus Jason Kidd.
the one thing we have going for us is that if the Pop and RC have something big up their sleeves, it's always 50/50 whether anybody would know until it's done.
Yeah, screw the front office !! I mean afterall, all they have done is lead the Spurs to 3 championships, and the most winning record of any major sports franchise in the last 10 years...oh yeah, while were at it, screw Horry and his terrible play that saved our asses in game 5 against the Pistons in the '05 Finals. , if the front office knew what they were doing, they would have landed a declining talent with a monster contract like Kidd's which would have made our present position far worse.
One dumb Manu foul, or one ft away from a 4th le (yes, the Spurs would have owned the Heat) all without being able to play our bigs against the Mavs and this is the unbelievable panic crap that people post. "Oh look, the freakin sky is falling".
All we Spurs fans have to look forward to is a team that features the best big man in the league, a Tony Parker that gets better each year, and hopefully a healthier Manu.
Man I can't wait to bump posts like this come April and May.
I just saw this one.And yes ... I just quoted myself.
uh...good for you.
All I did was support my statement. If the FO decided against it , great! First you said prices did not increase. Then you defend the increase while denying it.
BTW, it's way easier to negociate in nba when the Fo/owner has the reputation to be cheap. Just look at the amount spend by Spurs in the 03 and 04 offseason and you will realize that in fact Spurs aren't that cheap.
Take the case of Pryz, what is it easier to say :
We give you a 4 years deal instead of 5 because we want to have cap space when Duncan/Ginobili expire and because our owner is cheap .
or
We give you a 4 years deal instead of 5 because you are injury prone, not that good and you will be useless against teams like Mavs, Suns.
I know that Spurs don't get Pryz but you have more chance to get him if you claim that you give him a 4 years deal because your boss is cheap.
Maybe a visual will help. Look at this chart. Isn't it obvious what's going on. (but don't pay attention to the third column- someone can't add)
http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm
how many more could have been won? spurs fans settle too easily and the spurs know it.
IMO, the single biggest blunder of the Holt era. If the pimpiing of JKidd led to them trading the pick and ultimately passing on Howard, it only magnifies this blunder.
Who did we really lose out on this summer that we wanted? Ben Wallace? Nazr? Bonzi? Speedy?
There really hasn't been a single free agent this summer outside of Big Ben who I thought would be all that great of an addition, and none, (including Wallace) worth the money being asked. If you could guarantee me that Wells won't revert to his old self in a non-contract year you might be able to add him to my short list too.
If the Spurs would have thrown big money and a long contract at practically any of the free agents this summer people in here would have been ing next year about how we wasted so much payroll, and how can we possibly dump their worthless contracts (see Barry and Rasho). I can guarandamntee you that if Malik Rose was still a Spur the majority of people in here would be complaining about how sad it is that we haven't won a championship since 2003 and how horrible it is that we threw so much money at a tweener forward. If people can moan about Tony Parker needing to be traded after the year he had I'm sure they'll complain about anything.
I'm fully convinced that some people are never satisfied. Believe me, I'd love to see the Spurs go out and pick up every big name out there and pay an additional 100% of their salaries in luxury tax. That would be awesome. Let's dot the roster with a few more all-stars. Why the not? But I haven't seen anyone this summer who is worth the money being asked. So if the Spurs are positioning themselves to acquire some improved talent next summer, expecting a better market and hoping to have a lot more salary flexibility, I think that's a good move on management's part.
i can guarantee you that nazr mohammed as key to spurs' 3rd le is the greatest forum myth of all time.
April and May are overrated. I'd much rather be able to laugh about it next June.
I don't understand the Spurs strategy. If you like a player, if he fits your scheme and ulitmately you feel he can significantly contribute to the improvement of your team - DAMMIT GO GET HIM.
Obviously, I'm not saying they should throw crazy money at marginal talent or get into a collossal bidding war, but a guy like Pryzbilla got away because of another year of guaranteed money.
All of this troubles me because other organizations are seemingly moving swiftly and decisively from Plan A to Plan B. The Spurs are down to Plan M, much in part due to their "cheap bas ly" penny-pinching.
Just heard the Mavs are now close to signing Greg Buckner. At least they seem to have contigency plans and are moving ahead.
Malik Rose has really gone out and proven his doubters wrong in New York, too.
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