We are too spoiled !

[MWILL]

I'm not saying we should never criticize our favorite team. I just don't like the extremely negative "we suck" type posts when things get a little rough. This team has never sucked since Tim Duncan has been here. It has been a first-class organization since the early 70's and Popovich and Duncan has taken them to new levels. Criticize when needed is OK, but in the end, sometimes you need to sit back and think about how great it is to be a fan of the NBA's best franchise: YOUR SAN ANTONIO SPURS !!!!

It would truly suck to be a fan of the Mavericks. That poor team wants so much to be like the Spurs, but it just doesn't happen! Dirk is not Tim and he never will be.

The funny thing is when POP decides to hang it up, Avery Johnson would jump at the chance to come back to San Antonio and I'm sure Spurs fans would forgive him of his mistakes that he made in Dallas. Like the prodigal son, Spurs fans would forgive Avery....I think !

To say it sucks to be a MAV fan, it a little harsh. Dallas did get far in playoffs and that is good thing, despite what happened in the finals.

As for the Dirk and Tim comparassion, they're two different players. Dirk is superior in shooting but, Tim superior in post-up game. Dirk is a SF in a C/PF body. They will NEVER be like the other.

As for Avery going back to San Antonio, I don't think so. Dallas loves Avery.

[FromWayDowntown]

You forgot D. Harris and M. Ager, and Diop started on the bench ya ing genius. The other people you just mentioned are YOUNG (Povel won't be in the league, I'll give you that one).

What is oldie but goodie: Stack, Damp, Buck, Armstrong (Energy Guy), Crohesre (maybe),

Let's see Barry (Not a factor), Finley (Played great against us only), Van Exel (WTF happen to him), Horry (where's the BIG SHOT), Even the Euro rookie is old too. But, you have the Ulric kid.

Did ya draft anyone? NO!

DID ya win a Championship this year? No!

Are you going to get a decent center? No!

I know Dallas didn't win the in the finals but, they did win the WCF (It's not the greatest of greats I know that, so I don't need any more reminders). Being the best in the west is something, whether you like it or not.

By all reports (particularly statements from Donnie Nelson) Devin Harris will start when 2005-06 begins. All things being equal, that makes the Mavs bench look a whole lot like this:

Erick Dampier
Greg Buckner
Jerry Stackhouse
Austin Croshere
Maurice Ager
D.J. Mbenga
12th man

More than half of that bench is on the other side of 30 and 5/7th of it will be if the Mavs go with a vet to unseat Marshall or Powell.

The Spurs bench will have as many or more 20-somethings than the Mavs bench will: Bonner is 26, Udrih is 24, and Butler is 21. And the 30-something crowd on the Spurs bench is arguably better in quality than Dallas' 30-somethings. Finley, Horry, Oberto, and Barry >= Stackhouse, Dampier, Croshere, and Buckner. If the Spurs swing a deal to move Barry or Williams (if not both) that gap could swing quite decisively in favor of the Spurs.

The 2006 WCSF are the past. I think it's fairly plausible to think that the Spurs would have won that series if they'd been even just a bit deeper in a functional sense than they were. The Spurs didn't have a roster that could effectively deal with the Mavericks' movement to small ball. With players like Bonner, Butler, and either one of Udrih or Vaughn, I think that has already changed.

[MWILL]

DID you????

That's what I thought.



Yes WE know that. We also know that, sometimes (like this year), the best team does not win the conference.

Read the WHOLE post you Jackass!!

(KMFA) Kiss My ing Ass!

[Doug Collins]

You forgot D. Harris and M. Ager, and Diop started on the bench ya ing genius. The other people you just mentioned are YOUNG (Povel won't be in the league, I'll give you that one).

What is oldie but goodie: Stack, Damp, Buck, Armstrong (Energy Guy), Crohesre (maybe),

Let's see Barry (Not a factor), Finley (Played great against us only), Van Exel (WTF happen to him), Horry (where's the BIG SHOT), Even the Euro rookie is old too. But, you have the Ulric kid.

Did ya draft anyone? NO!

DID ya win a Championship this year? No!

Are you going to get a decent center? No!

I know Dallas didn't win the in the finals but, they did win the WCF (It's not the greatest of greats I know that, so I don't need any more reminders). Being the best in the west is something, whether you like it or not.

Ager was on the bench? I could've sworn he was playing at MSU last year..."ya in genius". Harris and Diop started for most of the playoffs and will probably continue to do so, so no they arent part of your bench. That's like me saying Manu is part of the bench cause he didnt start a couple games against the kings. After that you listed "oldies but goodies" and your young guys who suck, both of which contradict the "young bench" that's supposed to be a Mav's strength from your previous post. Great argument.

Moving on...

If I remember correctly you guys also lost to an older Miami team when you didnt win the championship. Winning the west means something except when you're trying to talk to a fanbase that's won 3 championships and was the defending champ going into this past year. So feel free to shut the up.

[pjjrfan]

We're spoiled cause we have some great talent to back up Tim, a true superstar. Maybe we didnt' win a le this year, but the fact remains when the Spurs have gotten to the big dance they have come home with a trophy and not a promise of wait till next year. One thing Pop always says is that this opportunity may never come again, and this team knows this and knows what it takes to get there and once there they know what it takes to win. Yeah we're spoiled but for good reason. We have a damn good team with some damn good players.

[Doug Collins]

Just so there isnt any confusion:

MSU (Michigan State University)

[MWILL]

What I hate about all Mavs' fans is that they go up 2-0 in the Finals and think they have a dynasty and schedule a parade...

Btw, let's talk about a bench here - Eric Piaktowski and Marcus Banks... not to mention Atlanta's lottery pick next season... and then we can round it out with Sean Marks and the writer formerly known as Paul Shirley (just cause he's jumped to ESPN doesn't mean he's lost his spot at the end of the row)... wow, the worst Suns players are pretty much better than anything the Mavs have to offer off the bench, considering they let a bench led by James Posey and 1-kidney Mourning beat them 4 straight...

It's fun to talk to a Suns fan.

Hey Ron, If you beat both the Spurs & Suns (both good teams) in the playoffs and if your team was up 2-0 in the finals you would think championship too.

Now to your bench: Eric and Marcus are decent pick-ups, Steve will make them better. How will they play in the playoffs? Hmmm.

Pretty much better? You've been in the sun too long.

Amare, let's see if he can stay healthy.

BTW, Did you treat your crabs today?

[MWILL]

Just so there isnt any confusion:

MSU (Michigan State University)

Devin started during the San Antonio series and not in the begining of the playoffs. Then after that Spur series was over, he came from the bench most of the time in the remainding games of the playoffs. Therefore he's a bench player. Devin won't start next year, Avery doesn't trust him just yet but, you knew that YOU ING GENIUS!
Powell & MBenga (still will need work) will help when it comes to hustle plays and rebounds.

Future:
M. Ager a good pick-up (BTW he played at MSU last year), Buckner will start while Ager watches from the bench. He's our new bench player while the Spurs don't have any draft picks. You ING GENIUS!

BTW, Damp has more value than Exel, Horry, Barry, and your 2 ty centers put together. You SPOILED BRAT!!

[strangeweather]

BTW, Damp has a bigger contract than Exel, Horry, Barry, and your 2 ty centers put together.

Fixed it.

[Doug Collins]

Devin started during the San Antonio series and not in the begining of the playoffs. Then after that Spur series was over, he came from the bench most of the time in the remainding games of the playoffs. Therefore he's a bench player. Devin won't start next year, Avery doesn't trust him just yet but, you knew that YOU ING GENIUS!
Powell & MBenga (still will need work) will help when it comes to hustle plays and rebounds.

Future:
M. Ager a good pick-up (BTW he played at MSU last year), Buckner will start while Ager watches from the bench. He's our new bench player while the Spurs don't have any draft picks. You ING GENIUS!

BTW, Damp has more value than Exel, Horry, Barry, and your 2 ty centers put together. You SPOILED BRAT!!

To be correct Devin actually started in 15 of the 23 playoff games so that doesnt really make him a bench player during that period. But i'll give you that he probably wont start the majority of the games in the regular season. Im glad you realized that Ager went to MSU and was in college last season, or else he couldnt have been drafted this season...props. Actually the spurs did have a draft pick, the second to last of the draft, so your statement is incorrect. They then traded the draft rights for that player. Damp is definitely more valuable than Horry and Barry with his game winn...wait I mean his clutch shoo...oh yeah he's never done . All hail Damp and his valuable contributions!!!!!! Get real. Buckner is worthless and you know it. We all saw him toss up brick after brick for the nuggets this playoffs and he is nothing of a defensive stopper so good luck with that again. I'll take a 21 year old Jackie Butler for next to nothing over Buckner any day.

Am I spoiled? Yes, watching championship banners raised to the rafters multiple times does that. Please keep talking cause it's giving me something to do.

[ro_50]

Devin started during the San Antonio series and not in the begining of the playoffs. Then after that Spur series was over, he came from the bench most of the time in the remainding games of the playoffs. Therefore he's a bench player. Devin won't start next year, Avery doesn't trust him just yet but, you knew that YOU ING GENIUS!
Powell & MBenga (still will need work) will help when it comes to hustle plays and rebounds.

Future:
M. Ager a good pick-up (BTW he played at MSU last year), Buckner will start while Ager watches from the bench. He's our new bench player while the Spurs don't have any draft picks. You ING GENIUS!

BTW, Damp has more value than Exel, Horry, Barry, and your 2 ty centers put together. You SPOILED BRAT!!

The last line is just classic and one of the more pathetic comments I've seen in my life.

[Doug Collins]

The last line is just classic and one of the more pathetic comments I've seen in my life.

Yeah. Damp >>>>>>> Horry makes perfect sense with all Damps rings and game winning heroics. He's an idiot.