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    You guys do realize that Butler and Mahinmi are still very much projects/long shots? And that DRob and TD were essentially Hall-of-Famers from day 1?

    I mean if we're extremely lucky, they might pan out to be Theo Ratliff and Dale Davis. The odds are that neither one will ever be as good as, say, Tyson Chandler. If they can develop while Duncan's still in his prime, great, but they're hardly something to plan to next dynasty over.

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    People forget, coming out of Virginia, Alexander was considered one of the best point guards.

    LOTS of commentators said it was a great pick due to his great shooting ability and speed.


    His foot injury in college didn't help.


    Alexander though wasn't a horrible pick, I don't think it helped that Bob Hill was coaching at the time.


    The assistant coaches and player developers are much better now than they were in 95.

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    The problem with Isiah is that he doesn't know how to mold talent. He is very good at finding it and bringing it in, but sucks completely in taking a player to that next level. Now as a coach he is going to try to do what he couldn't do in Indiana again and he just doesn't have the necessary skill set to do that. He's a not a very good GM, but was a terrific player. He's a great scouter of talent, but a terrible coach. He just hasn't come to terms with it yet.

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    Again, thinking a few players were better at #7 than Damon Stoudamire does not mean Isiah was blasted for taking him. Randolph Childress and maybe Corliss Williamson were arguably the better pick at the time, but there was no higher rated point guard, and that's what Isiah wanted.

    http://www.ibiblio.org/craig/draft/1...995_draft.html
    http://www.ibiblio.org/craig/draft/1...t/summary.html

    "Everyone thought that Stoudamire would go here. He probably would have had Toronto not picked him at #7. Trent was traded to Portland for Shawn Respert, Moving Day to the bench (where he belongs)."


    I know there aren't a lot of internet links to the 1995 NBA draft. I tried to do a little searching myself. Didn't really find much, but found a few other links connected to the one Spurminator found. At the above links, it looks like some basketball enthusiasts did their own mock draft. All of the participants had Damon Stoudamire being selected by the Milwaukee Bucks at #11. Now, do four draft slots appear to be enough for "everyone" you guys remember to "blast" on Zeke's pick of Stoudamire? I don't know. You'll have to answer that yourselves. I'll keep trying to find other links and articles.

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    Yeah what lousy drafts the spurs have had. They must have been been one of the worst NBA teams during this time. What? Only 3 les? Pop doesn't know what he's doing.
    Show me a team that is consistently getting top talent in the drafts and I'll show you a team that keeps losing.
    Hey, Spurs FO had no homework to do in drafting no-brainers like DRob AND Tim. Had the Angels not smiled down on the Spurs then, we'd still be waiting for le #1. You don't honestly think the FO could have achieved three les thru their drafting ability, do you?

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    Hey, it doesn't take too much FO genius to find solid contributors when you have DRob and Tim anchoring the middle. That's why only a tweak or two is needed each year.
    Two words: Minnesota Timberwolves.

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    You guys do realize that Butler and Mahinmi are still very much projects/long shots? And that DRob and TD were essentially Hall-of-Famers from day 1?

    I mean if we're extremely lucky, they might pan out to be Theo Ratliff and Dale Davis. The odds are that neither one will ever be as good as, say, Tyson Chandler. If they can develop while Duncan's still in his prime, great, but they're hardly something to plan to next dynasty over.

    Drob wasn't a HOF'er at the age of 20. He didn't even start to look like a legit future NBA player till he was 20.

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    Hey, Spurs FO had no homework to do in drafting no-brainers like DRob AND Tim. Had the Angels not smiled down on the Spurs then, we'd still be waiting for le #1. You don't honestly think the FO could have achieved three les thru their drafting ability, do you?
    No, I don't. And that is why we shouldn't be making such a big deal out of the draft. But, I will say that it took of a front office to win those 3 les and have been a contender for the le in the years we didn't win.

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    You guys are going a bit too far with your Isaiah talent evaluation love. Give me a break.

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    Drob wasn't a HOF'er at the age of 20. He didn't even start to look like a legit future NBA player till he was 20.
    Point taken, but I meant from the time they started playing professional ball.

    Regardless, the odds are much more in favor of Mahinmi being a Ratliff or Davis than a Robinson.

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    Ratliff or Davis
    In his prime, Davis was an all star.


    Ill take it.

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