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That's the only thing I could think of - I thought you meant the Harrington deal couldn't technically go through without this deal.
I read that they Pacers might be up against tax threshold after Harrington deal. Regardless, you're right it's really just a money deal for them.
That's the only thing I could think of - I thought you meant the Harrington deal couldn't technically go through without this deal.
AP and ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2527560
Pacers to deal Johnson to Mavs for Armstrong, two othersAssociated Press
INDIANAPOLIS -- The Indiana Pacers will send point guard Anthony Johnson to the Dallas Mavericks for veteran floor leader Darrell Armstrong and two other players, Armstrong's agent said Sunday.
Johnson Armstrong
Armstrong, forward Josh Powell and swingman Rawle Marshall are headed to the Pacers in a sign-and-trade deal that can't be completed until the NBA office opens Monday.
Johnson gives the Mavericks a pass-first point guard to complement starters Jason Terry and Devin Harris, both of whom are more scorers than distributors. Johnson also is taller than Armstrong, and a strong defender with solid playoff experience.
Dallas had been considering signing Chucky Atkins to fill the same role. By getting Johnson in a trade, the Mavs instead can spend their remaining salary cap money on a backup swingman and a third-string power forward, the final two items on their offseason want list.
The 31-year-old Johnson averaged 20 points and 5.2 assists in six playoff games last season. He'll make around $2.6 million this season and $2.8 million the following year.
Johnson had been a backup for most of his career, but started 89 regular-season games the past two years while the Pacers fought through injuries and suspensions. He scored 40 points in his last game with Indiana, a loss to New Jersey in the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs.
The 38-year-old Armstrong is a 12-year veteran with career averages of 10.1 points and 4.4 assists. He spent most of his career with Orlando before brief stints in New Orleans and Dallas.
Armstrong played much of last season with a torn rotator cuff. His biggest contribution, though, was as a locker room leader. Among the players he mentored was Marquis Daniels, who was traded by Dallas to Indiana for Austin Croshere earlier this month.
Glenn Schwartzman, Armstrong's agent, said Daniels' move helped Armstrong, an unrestricted free agent, agree to go to the Pacers.
"I think Marquis going there certainly was a factor," Schwartzman said. "But Darrell's decision was about what was best for Darrell and his family."
Powell and Marshall were players being developed by the Mavericks. Both are coming off their first NBA season.
Powell played 37 games, starting twice, and saw mop-up duty in six playoff games. Marshall played 23 games, starting nine, but was left off the postseason roster.
On the other hand, Dallas' fans would rather see A.Johnson against Beno/Vaughn than D. Armstrong. It isn't a blockbuster trade or anything but it does make Dallas more flexible.
To acquire a player like A.Johnson who can score 20pts a game in the playoffs and 40pt(game high) as a 3rd string for DA and a couple of scrubs is a steal.
As far as Terry guarding Manu, it ain't gonna happen. It will be Howard or Buckner.
I also don't think Johnson will be guarding Parker too much, though he is a solid defender. That will be up to Harris/Terry/Buckner/Ager.
Overall, excellent trade for a young team who desperately needed an experienced and polished backup guard they didn't have this past season. It's no Mike James, but considering what we had to give up for it, I kind of like this trade even better.
And he is getting better. He still needs alot of improvement but he is getting better. I don't think this trade is to light a fire in anybody's ass at all.
Johnson or not, Armstrong won't have played next year.
I agree that it's a steal and that it makes Dallas more flexible and deepr but it won't really help Mavs against Spurs.
Remember when Tony Delk scored like 50 something points for Sacramento a while back?
Good times.
Dallas needed a more polished and efficient 1-2 guard off the bench, after watching guys like DA, Harris, and Griff evaporate in the Miam series. Believe it or not, A. Johnson is a playoff type of guy. He's someone that can be on any team's playoff roster and contribute efficiently on both sides of the floor.
He will help the Mavs against the Spurs. He was Indiana's 2nd best player in this year's playoffs...how can he not help.
yeah, it's too bad the Spurs couldn't get him this year. lol j/kRemember when Tony Delk scored like 50 something points for Sacramento a while back?
Good times.
umm ... okay ...
oh I forgot, good ol' Beno is gonna save the franchise.umm ... okay ...
umm ... okay ...
Johnson a playoff type of guy
He has had a great serie this year : it's 6 games on 80 playoffs games he has played.
He won't really help against Spurs because Harris, Terry, Howard and Stackhouse are better than him and because he isn't a clear upgrade over Buckner.
Don't underrate Beno. Harris wasn't a better rookie than him after all.
I think it does.
For the MAVS to even think of gettng another PG, Devin should be watching his back. Just Remember Avery got rid of Quis (good young talent) because he wasn't consistant enough.
Johnson has no handles does anybody know that....i guess not
A. Johnson doesn't have to be better than the guys you mentioned, he just has to better than the player he's going against.Johnson a playoff type of guy
He has had a great serie this year : it's 6 games on 80 playoffs games he has played.
He won't really help against Spurs because Harris, Terry, Howard and Stackhouse are better than him and because he isn't a clear upgrade over Buckner.
And he's better than J. Vaughn.
the reason they gave up Rawle Marshall, is because they already have a young swingman whose name is Josh Howard. they made a perfect deal. got rid of DA, sparkplug but getting too old. Josh Powell wasnt really gonna play much now that Croshere came to town. Marshall was behind Stackhouse/Howard so not much time for him either. the reason the Pacers did this was because they wanted youth. i dont know why they wanted DA though.
With this addition I think Dallas will do this with their lineup.
PG Harris/A. Johnson
SG Terry/Buckner/Ager
SF Howard/Stackhouse
PF Nowitzki/Croshere
C Diop/Dampier. It is looking good and especially with the matchup against San Antonio since Dallas lost some of their depth by starting Harris. Now that is fixed.
Do you know that you can't play with 6 players ?
There are 144 min available at PG/SG/SF :
In playoff :
Terry : 38 min
Howard : 36 min
Harris : 32 min (he will be better next year)
Stackhouse : 30 min
There are only 8 min left for Buckner and Johnson.
Udrih is Spurs' backup PG
all valid points except i think stack will be the 2nd SG instead of SF
But I'm sure he wasn't starting in those other 74 games. Just shows to what he can do when given significant playing time. A lot like Mike James.Johnson a playoff type of guy
He has had a great serie this year : it's 6 games on 80 playoffs games he has played.
He won't really help against Spurs because Harris, Terry, Howard and Stackhouse are better than him and because he isn't a clear upgrade over Buckner.
U really can't compare Buckner to A.Johnson. Buckner is a poor man's Bowen. He is there to D' up and hit the occasional open shot, nothing more. A. Johnson is a true combo guard. He can pass, shoot, penetrate and play defense. He will proabably be Dallas' best passer.
Yeah, but Harris had 2 HUGE playoff games against the Spurs this year. Did Beno even play? Besides he's been in the league at least as long as Harris has.
Actually, Beno does have upside. He's a pretty good shooter and he's quick.
Really, I like the guy. Met him at Suede Lounge in downtown. He's pretty cool. He's definitely an upgrade over Van Exel.
and Beno!
You just can't say that a 9 years vet is a "playoff guy" just because he has had a great serie. I hope for Mavs that he do as good but he won't start too for Mavs.
We haven't watch the same Johnson.
Johnson isn't a good playmaker or passer, he is just a solid PG. He isn't a penetrator (he is too slow) and is a jumpshooter. He is too slow to defend PG like parker and Buckner will do a better job against Udrih or Ginobili.
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