Catty Coworkers.

[furry_spurry]

You are talking about a completely different situation. That was someone who worked beneath you- you were her supervisor, rght? It was your job to discuss her. The person in question was talking about a peer- that is entirely different. In your case- YOU WERE THE BOSS- and you knew what she was doing wrong. You were the person who was supposed to do something about it- surely not the other accounting clerks.

[SpursWoman]

Up until then I was told by those above me that she was pretty much untouchable, regardless of my rank ... I didn't think I could do anything about it so I just kept my mouth shut and dealt with it. Not all that dissimilar.

There's a big difference complaining because you don't like a perfume a coworker is wearing or that you just don't like her personally, and bringing up a problem that might potentially hurt the success of the company. The former? Yes, I would recommend keeping your mouth shut. The latter? I would approach it very diplomatically with your supervisor. Sorry, I just don't believe correcting a work-related problem is "catty." Regardless of what 80 year old men like boutons say, it possible for a female to have a legitimate concern at the workplace that needs to be addressed without it involving her menstrual cycle.

In any case, it's always good when the problem removes itself.

[easjer]

Glad it got resolved, Jekka.


Although I really have to laugh at furry's ideas with education/degrees, as mine are very different. Perhaps I've been jaded by working the field of higher education, but my experience has been that intelligence, work ethic, degrees, knowledge and management abilities/experience rarely have anything to do with each other. Maybe she's simply more lucky than I've been.

[leemajors]

Glad it got resolved, Jekka.


Although I really have to laugh at furry's ideas with education/degrees, as mine are very different. Perhaps I've been jaded by working the field of higher education, but my experience has been that intelligence, work ethic, degrees, knowledge and management abilities/experience rarely have anything to do with each other. Maybe she's simply more lucky than I've been.

it's always about who you know, or getting lucky. someone with connections can always move up.

[furry_spurry]

Although I really have to laugh at furry's ideas with education/degrees, as mine are very different. Perhaps I've been jaded by working the field of higher education, but my experience has been that intelligence, work ethic, degrees, knowledge and management abilities/experience rarely have anything to do with each other. Maybe she's simply more lucky than I've been.

I've never been someone to complain about my boss. I wasn't raised or taught that way. If nothing else, the "position" deserved respect.

The chances of my learning from my boss are greater if he is "more educated" than me. I care more about intellectual challenge than management style. Everyone has their own preferences. I also prefer a male boss. Now watch me get slammed.

[Jekka]

I've never been someone to complain about my boss. I wasn't raised or taught that way. If nothing else, the "position" deserved respect ... I also prefer a male boss.

Are you saying that it is easier for you to respect men in authoritative positions than women? Or just that you prefer learning from a man

In any case, it's always good when the problem removes itself.

Very much so. Although I would have appreciated it if she saved us all the grief sooner. Two of us are now doing the rest of her work, but at least it's getting done correctly the first time as opposed to spending half our time editing.

[NorCal510]

jekka mah ninja

[SpursWoman]

Are you saying that it is easier for you to respect men in authoritative positions than women? Or just that you prefer learning from a man

I believe it would be difficult to learn from a woman who's place is in her little cubicle with her mouth shut, so I guess that would make sense.


I've had very positive experiences with both male & female bosses ... and I try to emulate the qualities I respected most from each of them.

[Gatita]

[Jekka]

I believe it would be difficult to learn from a woman who's place is in her little cubicle with her mouth shut, so I guess that would make sense.


I've had very positive experiences with both male & female bosses ... and I try to emulate the qualities I respected most from each of them.

I've had good experiences from both male and female bosses as well. The general pattern of an ineffective boss from my experience is when he/she ignores problems and don't give adequate direction - and those traits are not gender-specific.

[SpursWoman]

That's rather frightening ... but it'd be a pretty funny party trick.

[furry_spurry]

I enjoy how you classify me. First, I was a secretary and now I work in a cubicle- neither of which I have ever done- not that there is anything wrong with either.

Maybe it's because I have always had people come and ASK me for input and opinions-I haven't ever had to initiate it.

Maybe I just have a different view of work, as well as life. I figure that people have to answer for themselves as to how they lived their lives and did their jobs, and certainly not answer to me.

As for male bosses, yeah, I will say it-- overall, males are more supportive of females than females are of other females. Not always- but I am just playing the odds. Like in this story, the cattiness came from a female- right?

[SpursWoman]

I enjoy how you classify me.

They were both very general statements ... where you got they were specific to you I have no idea.

[NorCal510]

jekka mah ninja

[tlongII]

In my experience I have found female bosses to be much more manipulative and they tend to tend to concern themselves more with how they are perceived rather than the work group as a whole. Of course I'm speaking in generalities here, but I'd rather work for a male.